Yes Bill, I was thinking of you. Probably shouldn't have characterized you as a small breeder as I have no idea how many snakes you have produced but just not a huge number of caramels, yet...

The big breeder was Marcus Jane from this thread:

http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...t=12137&page=3

where Mr. Mandic reports producing 60+ caramels with no kinks.

I wasn't aware of Greg Gaziani's report. What did he say? Anyone know if his rats eat Mazuri 6F like the other two?

I also remember Morph King Reptiles from several years ago report to produce a large number of not kinked caramels. Interesting that even the people producing them have a lot of different theories on why but maybe with enough information sharing we can find the common link and find a workaround to revive this really cool morph. Otherwise I'm afraid caramel might get replaced by ultramel even though the look really isn't quite the same (nothing against ultramel, just would love to also see lots of healthy unkinked caramels available).