Best BEL?

[OhhWatALoser]

There are so many combos to make a BEL, which combo is best?
Which combo makes the whitest BEL?
Anything without mojave,
Lesser/Butter/Russo x Lesser/Butter/Russo/Mocha/Phantom/Mystic
Which makes the 'coolest' BEL? (faint patterns or color tinges?)
Super Phantom
Which combos produce the dirtiest BELS?
Mojave x Mojave
Is there a combo that makes bluer eyes than other combos?
Good question, this I would like to know also

also with the platty thing
from ralphs text I just got done reading over it would seem to me platty is a combo morph between a lesser/butter and a recessive "hidden" gene, but the "hidden" gene only pops up with the lesser/butter morph not on its own.

"Platties are still only being produced from breeding a Lesser that is sired by Platty Daddy to a normal looking that is sired by Platty Daddy....or Platty Daddy x normal sib or Lesser. "

"The 01 Grandmother of this clutch was part of my 04 breedings when I was breeding "platty sib" x "platty sib" trying to isolate the "hypo platty gene".......those breedings produced 4 clutches with a total of 19 normal looking offspring produced......"


but yea a platty x lesser would be a lesser x lesser BEL het hidden gene, atleast if im understanding it right.

[DrLew]

Prices are a fallin, why make when you can buy......NOW!
Saw one on Kingsnake.com today for $1300

[Jay_Bunny]

I personally want to hatch out my own morphs. (recessives, supers, multi-gene combos, etc). I think it would be much more rewarding to have bred them yourself. When I go to make BELs I will use a lesser X lesser pairing. Of course, I kind of like the look of the mojave X mojave.

[jjmitchell]

i would go butter x butter

[RandyRemington]

I originally also subscribed to the theory that the thing added to lesser to make a platy was recessive but with more breeding results posted that doesn't seem to be the case.

1. RDR made the butter version of platy without inbreeding. So it must be just one additional allele to turn a lesser (or butter) into the platy.

2. No lesser X lesser has been reported to produce platy. If the extra ingredient was recessive then surely since all RDR line lessers are descendent from the platy a pair of hets would be bred by now. The allele theory explains why no lesser can carry the extra gene to make platy.

[het.pied]

butter to butter! thats what ima do. this next season

Edit: i was thinking a poll should be added.

[dr del]

Hi,

Is it impossible that an allele could be inherited differently?

I am not very sure of the terms but what I mean is this;

Could it be physically possible for two alleles to be different in that one is co-dom and one is recessive?

I don't think it's the case in plattys given the breeding results we have seen but would the folowing be possible

A&B are the alleles in this. A is a visible het with a distinct super form and B is a non-visual het with a visual homozygous form and AB is visibly different from both AA and BB.

I was just curious.


dr del

[Emilio]

I decided on lesser x lesser but then I said to myself I want all the white snakes.LOL So in the future I will have all of them except the het russo bel.

[Russ Lawson]

It looks like Platy is a combo of two different mutations of the same gene (alleles). So in that respect platy would be the same as a BEL, just not a totally white one. One of the mutations is lesser and the other has been called "hidden" because they apparently look normal.

So platy X lesser would produce eggs each with a 25% chance of being BEL's, 25% chance of being platy, 25% chance of lesser, and 25% chance hidden. The BEL's would be the same as a lesser X lesser breeding.

Randy,

If this were the case, then theoretically wouldn't two 'platty sibs' bred together have the chance to produce a homozygous platinum as well? (Or perhaps even something which looks different - super phantoms come to mind.) Just curious, because I'm fairly certain Ralph has done this pairing and not gotten any results. Or is it plausible the homozygote could be 'hidden' along with the heterozygote, which would explain the apparent lack of results of that pairing?

[Ouroboros]

I personally want to hatch out my own morphs. (recessives, supers, multi-gene combos, etc). I think it would be much more rewarding to have bred them yourself. When I go to make BELs I will use a lesser X lesser pairing. Of course, I kind of like the look of the mojave X mojave.

Agree. But sometimes it is easier to buy the combo and move towards to your final dream combo when already having one of the combined componets for it.