Who builds computers?

[RichsBallPythons]

aparently no one knows what sarcasm is.....

it was a joke, but they pack 1 gig of ram windows 7 34 bit and 100 gb hardrive for 500....

3 years ago my parents ordered a computer from dell that had 63 gb of hardrive (after windows was installed) 512mb of ram and a crappy processor..... for just under a grand..

i know that they got ripped off...

I sure hope you typed that worng and know its 32 bit or 64 bit.

[brainman1000]

they pack 1 gig of ram windows 7 34 bit and 100 gb hardrive for 500....

Where did you get those numbers from? Here is what I found for $450:

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/t...=19&l=en&s=dhs

[RichsBallPythons]

Where did you get those numbers from? Here is what I found for $450:

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/t...=19&l=en&s=dhs

That computer can be built same price with BETTER parts. Might even be cheaper to build and have a somewhat decent gaming gfx card as well.

[brainman1000]

That computer can be built same price with BETTER parts. Might even be cheaper to build and have a somewhat decent gaming gfx card as well.

True, I was simply pointing out that the numbers were a little off from what is out there now in a pre-built machine.

[dc4teg]

ITS ALL SARCASM!!!! :cens0r: WOW.....

My point is that you get better parts in a diy computer at the same price of the bottom line prebuilt, do yall understand now

[dc4teg]

I sure hope you typed that worng and know its 32 bit or 64 bit.

oh my bad its suposed to say 32, its been a long day, one of my dogs passed

[Egapal]

Why is it they wont get advice here. I work with computers for a living and im also a MOD on 2 Computer forums.

I am a firm believer that if you have an edge case its hard to get good advice. Looking for good advice for an edge case like building your own non gaming pc on a snake forum is not the best approach by my standards.

Pre built are a waste of money PERIOD. Your not paying for the computer rather for sub par parts that are no name crap that are low to mid range capabilities. For the price you see on a desktop in the stores you can build it easily 300 cheaper or same price with top of the line parts.

I whole heartedly disagree with you. You can buy a Dell Inspiron 546 with a 22" widescreen for $538 plus tax and $12.95 shipping. Now if you can build me a working desktop with a 22" monitor for $250 ($300 dollars less) I would love to see it. Is it a great computer? No. The thing is, you can replace the parts you don't like from newegg.com and have a much better computer for a steal.

I dont know how many Dell and HP desktops i have had to replace the power supplies,or hard drives as they use cheap components.

I have replaced quite a few myself. How many have you not replaced? Thats the real question. I can't tell you how many virus's I have cleaned off of dells and hp's but who cares cause its equally irrelevant. If you are going to build your own you should be able to handle replacing a harddrive or a powersupply. If you are going to build your own computer in the first place hopefully you are smart enough to know that any harddrive can die and you have good backups. If you use linux great if not then a prebuilt is the cheapest way to get a legit operation system on a working computer. Upgrade it after the fact.

Cna NEVER go wrong with building your own computer if you know how. You save money and you get better warranty and customer service from each parts manufacture, rather speaking to dell or hp.

I am not saying that building your own computer is a bad way to go if you have specific requirements, but most people don't. Computers that you build or buy are basically disposable these days. Technology is just moving to fast. If a part dies I order a new better one. I Have owned 3 dells and service about 100 dells at work. I have called them once for a server power supply and again for a server hard drive. Both times they shipped me a new one overnight and I shipped the bad parts back. When a motherboard dies I throw it away and keep the rest of the PC for parts and buy a new PC. Building your own computer takes a lot of time and effort and time is money. If PC's are your hobby then fine, but if you just want a good pc, a will always recommend buying the cheapest prebuilt you can that has a motherboard you can live with and upgrade where needed through newegg. Dell and other computer retailers make there money on upsells. They charge you 100 to 200 percent markup on ram and processors. Upgrade them yourself and you will do just fine.

[RichsBallPythons]

I am a firm believer that if you have an edge case its hard to get good advice. Looking for good advice for an edge case like building your own non gaming pc on a snake forum is not the best approach by my standards.



I whole heartedly disagree with you. You can buy a Dell Inspiron 546 with a 22" widescreen for $538 plus tax and $12.95 shipping. Now if you can build me a working desktop with a 22" monitor for $250 ($300 dollars less) I would love to see it. Is it a great computer? No. The thing is, you can replace the parts you don't like from newegg.com and have a much better computer for a steal.



I have replaced quite a few myself. How many have you not replaced? Thats the real question. I can't tell you how many virus's I have cleaned off of dells and hp's but who cares cause its equally irrelevant. If you are going to build your own you should be able to handle replacing a harddrive or a powersupply. If you are going to build your own computer in the first place hopefully you are smart enough to know that any harddrive can die and you have good backups. If you use linux great if not then a prebuilt is the cheapest way to get a legit operation system on a working computer. Upgrade it after the fact.



I am not saying that building your own computer is a bad way to go if you have specific requirements, but most people don't. Computers that you build or buy are basically disposable these days. Technology is just moving to fast. If a part dies I order a new better one. I Have owned 3 dells and service about 100 dells at work. I have called them once for a server power supply and again for a server hard drive. Both times they shipped me a new one overnight and I shipped the bad parts back. When a motherboard dies I throw it away and keep the rest of the PC for parts and buy a new PC. Building your own computer takes a lot of time and effort and time is money. If PC's are your hobby then fine, but if you just want a good pc, a will always recommend buying the cheapest prebuilt you can that has a motherboard you can live with and upgrade where needed through newegg. Dell and other computer retailers make there money on upsells. They charge you 100 to 200 percent markup on ram and processors. Upgrade them yourself and you will do just fine.

http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/deskt...46&cs=19&s=dhs

You show me on this site where you seen that Dell for 500 That included the 22" monitor. Those specs on the computers are horrible and cheap parts According to Dell its 729, and at 729 i can build a nice AMD or Intel Computer with name brand parts with monitor for that price. Replacing parts from Newegg is a total waste. Youd have to replace the Psu which is about 100+ for a good brand. You will have to replace the motherboard and ram. Those 3 things are the biggest money in a computer and can cost a lot just to swap it out. Save the hassle and build your own and not have these extra parts laying around as paper weights.

My reasoning about prebuilt is that they use sh*t parts that die very easily. I replace about 1-2 PSU and hard drives per week from customers computers and most are from Dell and HP. Some are even from New computers under year old who dont have warranty.


And building PCs it NOT a lot of work. Not sure where you got that but i have custom build 6 computers last week one of which being a custom 4 loop water cooling. Takes a computer builder on average 2 hrs per computer to put them together and test it. If i thought it was going to be a lot of work i would never offer that service to people. This is my main job i do around town.

[RichsBallPythons]

Heres a quick i5 build that includes a complete system that is hair more than the dell since its using better ram,motherboard,and cpu,power supply. Not to mention includes 22". The dell is using a older athlon ii am3 which is very slow and integrated gfx. And pcie gfx card will beat integrated.
you WILL NOT find a build like this for this price or cheaper for a prebuilt.

Last time i seen a i7 prebuilt from FX they wanted voer 1800 for it and they used really sub par parts.

[brainman1000]

Heres a quick i5 build that includes a complete system that is hair more than the dell since its using better ram,motherboard,and cpu,power supply. Not to mention includes 22". The dell is using a older athlon ii am3 which is very slow and integrated gfx. And pcie gfx card will beat integrated.
you WILL NOT find a build like this for this price or cheaper for a prebuilt.

Last time i seen a i7 prebuilt from FX they wanted voer 1800 for it and they used really sub par parts.

You forgot to include the OS...
Just messing with you.

I don't understand why we are arguing about this. It is never a bad idea to build a PC if you or someone you know knows what they are doing. Most people though can do just fine with a pre-built. When you are doing more intense stuff like gaming or 3D rendering that require better RAM and video capabilities, it becomes almost necessary to build your own. Either way, it all comes down to budget and personal preference.