Try number 2 with a live mouse........still no luck. Have a digital therm so I know temps are right.....two hides one cool one warm, still yet to really pull him out and hold, and humidity around 55%. He seems to have no interest other in it so I will try again on Fri or Sat. At least now I went and built a mouse house so Im not throwing $$ away. Any other suggestions or am i doing everything right? Thanks