Super Pastel or Pastave...

[oceancube]

id breed them to both to her and play the guessing game!!!

[kc261]

It really depends on where you want to go with your breeding projects.

The advantage of the super is that you know every single one of its offspring will be pastels. This will make it easier to hit combos.

The advantage of the pastave is being one step closer triple gene combo, however, the chance of hitting them is much smaller than hitting a double gene combo using the super pastel.

If you don't have a strong leaning, cycle both males through her and maybe you'll get lucky and get both!

[coldbloodaddict]

Definitely both!

[AnthonyCaponetto]

You just have to look at the punnet square and figure out which clutch is more appealing to you and/or what works best for your projects.

Female super pastels (which you could make lots of with a male Super) are always valuable snakes in a collection. If you have a super pastel female, you can breed it to any new male co-dom or recessive and then make a pastel combo (or pastel het) male to breed back to her in a couple years...that's a fast way to making the super pastel version of whatever morph you get next. And you'll have her year after year. Now just think if you had two....lol

Super Pastel Mojaves would be awesome too...especially if you had plans to get something else that goes well with those two genes, like a spider or pinstripe...or a spinner.

I think I'd have to get both (I'm basically doing the same thing in reverse - Super Mojave and Pastel Mojave).

[MakiMaki]

I'd go for both, too. A mixed clutch would be cool, but, more importantly, you increase your chances of having a successful breeding season by using both males. You never know which pairing will be more successful.

[AnthonyCaponetto]

I'd go for both, too. A mixed clutch would be cool, but, more importantly, you increase your chances of having a successful breeding season by using both males. You never know which pairing will be more successful.

Excellent point. Up until about 3 years ago, I would always find myself wishing I had more males....and I mean always, as in every single year. Now I've finally corrected it (or am nearing correction!) and my projects basically all have multiple males. I'm really shooting for all of them to have a male super and a male 2-4 gene combo using that same gene.

So yeah, if you can afford two males and you have more than 2-3 females, I'd say you would be smart to get both.. Getting more than 2-3 clutches can be tricky if you're only working with one male.

[joepythons]

id breed them to both to her and play the guessing game!!!

I agree

[Freakie_frog]

Both..

[Elise.m]

I'd go for both as well.

[BaierBalls]

So...If I was to cycle both with her, and considering she was receptive to both and both bred her, what are the chances both fathers sire the clutch? Does that happen often or is it a "slim" chance?