Quote Originally Posted by PyroPython View Post
Really, the majority of colubrids are non-venomous. Aside from Hognose and Boomslangs, and the northern cat-eyed snake (just a few to mention here), there really aren't too many that ARE venomous.

But I do agree. Just because YOU don't consider anything with venom to be a colubrid, doesn't make it right. Until it's scientifically altered, a hognose and the like will continue to be colubrids, despite your personal views.
In bold - wrong.

Most are. It's documented. Saying it isn't, does not make it so.

http://www.venomdoc.com/forums/viewt...ight=colubrids

If I may be allowed to quote form someone who has actually done research:

"Most colubrid snakes have very potent venom but produce very small amounts of it and typically have quite small rear fangs."

As for garters:

http://www.venomdoc.com/forums/viewt...light=sirtalis

Pay atterntion to WW's posts - that's Dr. Wolfgang Wuster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_W%C3%BCster