SOS! Need help! Vomiting...

[Vag]

Hello everybody.

I have 10 ball pythons and I breed my own rats.
I have bought 2 new babies (balls).
I have given them newborn rats, everything ok
Second time I try to give them pinkies and after one day they vomited.

Today an adult ball vomited also after two days.

I must mention that 2 female adult rats have suddenly died.

What should I do first?

I am scared and I believe that sth is wrong with my rats.

[Elise.m]

What are the temps? How are you measuring them? Do you have them in tanks or tubs?

Most importantly, are you quarantining your new snakes as you get them?

[het.pied]

sounds like you may have a problem with your rats. they could have some chemical on them or around them that the ball pythons are ingesting with the rodents. Might actually be a good thing they threw them up if the rats are "contaminated". Do you have anything around the rats that might have gotten into their enclosures?

[2kdime]

Like said....

Did you QT?

Check your temps

Make sure ther rats didn't get into anything. I'd also take a look at what I was using to clean cages/rat bins with.

[Vag]

I have them in a rack system.
The new ones were QT as they had mites.
I have used Provent-a-mite everywhere just in case.
I was very careful when I used it.
No mites at all, now after 12 days.

warm side about 28,5 C.

air temp in the room about 21 C.

The rats are at the same spot years now.

I have noticed that sudden deaths were noticed when I bought some new rats to complete my sets.

[dr del]

Hi,

If you are measuring those temps correctly with a digital thermometer inside their hides then your hot side temps are only one degree more than we recommend for the cool side.

We normally recomment a cold side temp of 80-82f and a warm side temp of 92-94f.

What heat sources are you using and how long have the animals been in the same conditions - and were there no problems with things like this before?


dr del

[RichsBallPythons]

I have them in a rack system.
The new ones were QT as they had mites.
I have used Provent-a-mite everywhere just in case.
I was very careful when I used it.
No mites at all, now after 12 days.

warm side about 28,5 C.

air temp in the room about 21 C.

The rats are at the same spot years now.

I have noticed that sudden deaths were noticed when I bought some new rats to complete my sets.

Temps are TOO LOW. you want a 90F warm side or 32c and 80-84 cool side 26c

[Vag]

My snakes are in the same conditions for about three months.
I use the digital therm from lucky reptile.
It is a 27 boxes rack with 2 cables 17m-150W.
I use them because my snake room is outside the house.
Every box has two lines of cable under.

[2kdime]

Bingo

temps are too low. You want a 90f warm side or 32c and 80-84 cool side 26c

[Vag]

What about the rats that are dying?