?? on my new meican pine snake and bullsnake

[leper65]

Flameethrower is right, Bulls, Gophers and Pine snakes are not rear fanged, just a big constrictor. Care is very much like a cornsnake. Which breeder did you get them from? My Pine hissed and vibrated her tail a lot the first few weeks I had her. It's rarely happens now. They are opening their mouths when hissing to expel air over their epiglottis, a special membrane they developed for hissing loudly as a defensive mechanism.

[BOWSER11788]

the breeder i asked i have no clue his name, actually he had a table in front of the one i bought mine from, but the breeder i bought from is from Ashboro(sp? big time) North Carolina, Caraway creek i belive, i left his card at my gf's house

[BOWSER11788]

im sorry in my OT, I made it sound like i bought from that breeder. sorry

[PyroPython]

Hognose are rear-fanged. But none of the pit. species. The open mouth thing is pretty much normal, but they don't have to do it to his. Not very wide, anyways. Usually they just open it a little bit, kinda side-ways looking.

I catch them alot around here (The bullsnake). From my experience, it's mostly just a big display. Maybe a bite or two initially, and some musking. Usually start calming down a bit after the initial display. If you take them out and are handling them, anyways. They like to hiss for a good 5 min. after you leave them alone. Gotta love em.

[RichsBallPythons]

Hognose are rear-fanged. But none of the pit. species. The open mouth thing is pretty much normal, but they don't have to do it to his. Not very wide, anyways. Usually they just open it a little bit, kinda side-ways looking.

I catch them alot around here (The bullsnake). From my experience, it's mostly just a big display. Maybe a bite or two initially, and some musking. Usually start calming down a bit after the initial display. If you take them out and are handling them, anyways. They like to hiss for a good 5 min. after you leave them alone. Gotta love em.

No one asked about hognoses. we all know their rear fanged and semi venomous. They are also not in same group as colubrids.

[PyroPython]

I know this. It was just a statement. I do know how to read, after all.

Your whole reply is completely un-neccessary.

[Skiploder]

No one asked about hognoses. we all know their rear fanged and semi venomous. They are also not in same group as colubrids.

A hognose is a colubrid........

[RichsBallPythons]

A hognose is a colubrid........

They are different class of cloubrid. Wasnt meaning to say they arent completely because they are rear fanged with venom as to colubrids we all know are not. There for are a TYPE of cloubrid

I call them semi venmous due to thier not potent enough to kill . I have been bitten by one western Hog and didnt get a single reaction.