What is he... Cinny or B.P.?

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Well, everything BUT the squiggles says cinny to me, and of course the Guide says the squiggles are black pastel.

However, if you scroll to the bottom of the cinny page in the Guide, there is a WC cinny with squiggles, so it could be anybody's guess.

I suggest contacting the breeder to see if he can tell you what pair this snake is from. Then you will know for sure, as Bruce mentioned.

Gale

That's a WC black pastel not a cinny in that pic.

The parents were "Ian G. Line" black pastels - whatever that means. I dug up the receipt. Now you all know for sure. I still think that, according to the guide (with the the exception of the squiggles) he looks like a cinnamon.

I am far from a BP expert. In fact this is the only one I ever owned.

I think it's comical that even the guide basically says that there is little to no difference other than the squiggles as the head.

Here's some more fuel for the fire:

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...cin_pastel.asp

If I'm reading this right, they are the SAME thing. Before someone sacks up and flames me, read the quote from Graziani.

..and Laura - here is a link to another Ian G. black pastel that looks just like ol' Dave the Wuss:

http://www.kingsnake.com/donpatterso...stel_ball.html