Hets w/visual traits/ Breeders opinions

[pavlovk1025]

I noticed that the 100% het lav male and my PH lav male have the same gold coloring and white outlines for the alien heads. The female, who I havent paid off yet but have seen pictures, also has the same thing. Oddly enough, all 3 of them have an "8" in their pattern. Not calling that a marker, but it IS odd.

Poss Het Lav


100% Het Lav Female


100% Het Lav Male, dark photo

[ARpythons]

can someone go into a little more detail about the clown markers. I have 3 poss het clown females and would like to check this out. so if someone could post a pictures that would be great. also what do you mean by spaced far apart..that the scales in general are spaced far apart or that each large scale is far apart from the next one?

[Caz]

My het clowns not only have the large scales on the spine but a kind of 'sheen' on the head. Almost like oil on water. Anyone else noticed this?

[Dave Green]

I agree that many hets seem to look different but many others don't. Maybe it has something to do with the normals used in prior breedings? I used to keep unusual normals just because, maybe I would produce something neat, etc. I would assume others have done the same. If these normals were used to produce hets maybe that would explain future "markers"??

In 2008 I produced four clutches from lav albino x het. All the hets in these clutches were very nice and bright gold color. I then had two cluches from het lav x normal still incubating and figured I would be able to just pick out the nice gold ones. All the babies from both clutches looked totally normal??

[jsmorphs2]

Here is a similar thread regarding Het. Axanthic markers. http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103673

This subject is very interesting. We should compile a photo gallery of 100% hets of various morphs and see if there are as many consistencies as there seems to be.

[ARpythons]

This subject is very interesting. We should compile a photo gallery of 100% hets of various morphs and see if there are as many consistencies as there seems to be.

I agree with this. it would have to be broken up among lines. like a specific thread for each line of ghost or axanthic. It would be a good way to disprove/prove a lot of these marker theories.

[JAMills]

Very interesting thread!

As a lot of us I do have several Hets in my collection.

I have noticed that my Het Ghost all have a nice bright color, busy patterns, and the random grey scales like you find on Homozygous Ghosts.
My Het pieds have the "Melty" pattern and "railroad tracks"
My Het Carmel girl looks a lot like the Het pieds with the melty pattern but also has an extraordinary sheen to her scales all the time!
Het albinos just don't look normal to me but I can not explain it. I have heard that some are born almost axantic looking (Fader Albino I believe)

Good thread!