i was agreeing with you on the part in the first paragraph.And as far as the second i guess i'm just being paranoid about feeding over loose aspen lol but it only took a minute to cut the lid down to fit over the aspen and other wise i have no use for the lid anyway when i buy the tubs. I might try feeding over aspen again, with 30snakes it'd be a lot faster to just throw a rat in lol. thanks.