New Butter

[wendhend]

You can describe things in books, but it's never the same until you see it and experience it in real life. Not saying that Chuck has not, because he has, it's just something that can't always be described perfectly in words.
Matt knows what he's talking about, I can promise you that.

I don't mean any disrespect to Matt, but I have also been breeding corns for several years and have hatched many amels, as well as some butters. I agree that this hatchling doesn't look like a typical butter, but it also doesn't look like a typical amel. I do agree that it is amelanistic in the broad sense of the word, meaning that it doesn't have any black pigment. Yet there is something very yellow about this snake that you don't see in a typical amel hatchling... in its yellow ground color, yellow-orange saddles and even apparent in its golden eye-color in the newer pictures. Looking at the newer pictures, I tend to think that it might actually be a creamsicle. Does that seem plausible to you all?

[joepythons]

Looking at the newer pictures, I tend to think that it might actually be a creamsicle. Does that seem plausible to you all?

The first pic shows enough its a amel .Sorry but its not a creamsicle either .

[Blue Apple Herps]

I tend to think that it might actually be a creamsicle. Does that seem plausible to you all?

That's possible. But amels have such a wide variety, and this one isn't that odd looking of an amel to be honest. As I mentioned earlier, some het caramels have a yellowish tint that can take over their body. But not all do. Though this one does have that coloration one might expect from an amel that is het caramel.

Unless it was sold as a creamsicle or the breeder is known to have worked with creamsicles, I wouldn't label it as such.

[anti-]

I contacted the breeder and he ensured me that both parents are actually butter.


I don't have anything more to say, I'll just post more pics with each shed to keep you updated.

[joepythons]

I contacted the breeder and he ensured me that both parents are actually butter.


I don't have anything more to say, I'll just post more pics with each shed to keep you updated.

Ok have a good one

[blackcrystal22]

I contacted the breeder and he ensured me that both parents are actually butter.


I don't have anything more to say, I'll just post more pics with each shed to keep you updated.

Had the female been paired with other males at all previously? Sounds like this could be a retained sperm situation.
Who is the breeder?

[wendhend]

That's possible. But amels have such a wide variety, and this one isn't that odd looking of an amel to be honest. As I mentioned earlier, some het caramels have a yellowish tint that can take over their body. But not all do. Though this one does have that coloration one might expect from an amel that is het caramel.

I am aware of this phenomenon with amels het for caramel having extra yellow, but I have yet to see a really extreme example of one. I have a couple of amel het caramel girls myself. While they do have a bit more yellowish tones to them than most amels, their reds are still pretty apparent but kind of muted. Would you say that most amels het for caramel with the extreme yellows hatch looking extemely yellow or that the yellow typically creeps in over time? Does anybody have any photos of these high-yellow amels het caramel (hatchling and/or adult) that they could post on this thread for comparison? Thanks!

[Blue Apple Herps]

I am aware of this phenomenon with amels het for caramel having extra yellow, but I have yet to see a really extreme example of one. I have a couple of amel het caramel girls myself. While they do have a bit more yellowish tones to them than most amels, their reds are still pretty apparent but kind of muted. Would you say that most amels het for caramel with the extreme yellows hatch looking extemely yellow or that the yellow typically creeps in over time? Does anybody have any photos of these high-yellow amels het caramel (hatchling and/or adult) that they could post on this thread for comparison? Thanks!

It's not really extreme, at least the ones I've seen. It's enough where you can say "Oh yeah, it does look more yellow" but isn't so extreme where it screams het caramel. My breeder male amel that is het caramel, is actually a sunglow and shows no hint. Same with other het caramels that I've hatched, they all looked "normal".

But if you look on cs.com, you'll find people that have posted comparison shots.