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Re: seems social...
They are just both competing for the best spot at the same time. Not having a hug-fest
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Re: seems social...
wish it was that simple but both spots are "completely" identical so there is no best spot and i separate them every night and one find the other or vice versa.
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Re: seems social...
I agree it's interesting but again. When we are looking at the best habitat for an animal, reproduction of it's natural habitat is the key. Ball's just don't hang out and socialize in the wild that I am aware of. This may be both balls have found the optimal spot in the cage, between the two identical sides. It may be any number of things but I don't think it proves out that this is best for the snake. I think it's a human idea that we project on the snake. We would be lonely. We would want someone there with us. We are herd animals, we come together. That isn't what happens with our balls, in their own original world however.
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Re: seems social...
im going to track who i move and who follows for the next few nights because it doesnt seem to matter which identical side they end up in which would put the best spot theory to rest. really weird...
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Re: seems social...
Just a few tips, document everything and keep everything consistent. Separate them at the same time every night and take the temps inside each of the hides before adding them together. Place them at the same place every time. Feed them the same size prey and at the same time (hopefully not together in the enclosure). Take pictures and share them with us. Do this over the course of a month (preferably longer). Also the snakes should be the same size and age.
Housing BPs in the same enclosure is a touchy subject. You'll have to share data to back up your claims, and still then I would expect you should be prepared to defend yourself.
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Re: seems social...
ill keep you guys posted but not feeling the need to defend myself...
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Re: seems social...
Can you share data you've collected during this scientific experiment? Air temps, hides, belly temps, humidity, etc... Also please post the exact procedure you've taken during this experiment. Any other observations? Was one laying on top of the other in the hide? If that was the case, was it the same one? How long was this experiment conducted and was there a preference for a particular hide? What kind of hides are you using? You're going to have to be more specific instead of just stating to "take your word."
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Re: seems social...
 Originally Posted by MarkieJ
Can you share data you've collected during this scientific experiment? Air temps, hides, belly temps, humidity, etc... Also please post the exact procedure you've taken during this experiment. Any other observations? Was one laying on top of the other in the hide? If that was the case, was it the same one? How long was this experiment conducted and was there a preference for a particular hide? What kind of hides are you using? You're going to have to be more specific instead of just stating to "take your word."
ambient 83, hide belly 92, humidity 55 for one week. hides are exact rock molds. all i would do is pull one from the hide and let them slide and settle into the other hide before bedtime and every single morning they would be together but never on top of each other.
i could just give you fake data if i wanted to deceive you. in fact youre really taking everyones word on here so please take mine...
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Re: seems social...
 Originally Posted by chasingtime
i could just give you fake data if i wanted to deceive you. in fact youre really taking everyones word on here so please take mine...
I'm not taking anyone's word here to heart. I've read good arguments from both sides of the fence. What you're doing can turn out to be a pretty cool experiment if you take the right steps and your animals are doing well.
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Re: seems social...
Balls have been known to share burrows in the wild. Especially during breeding season (which is now)
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