I agree, they are all the same. Holding color? If you mean staying lighter in color than the super, the pastel won't do that. However, I think they all dull or brown somewhat (proportionately speaking) over time. I have a Don Kaye pastel that is very much like the day I first got her as soon as she sheds but gets more tan as time passes between sheds. I have seen many pastels super or not that all do the same thing, some more than others. I think the "holding color" thing is something someone came up with as a marketing mechanism, no offense to the breeders out there who don't claim this.