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[J.Vandegrift]

Yes I like the biology 101 lecture...
But 4 winged flyers were actually six limbed...like the other evolved creatures on the planet except the Na'vi...
4 limbs for flying, and then legs...
wolves have 4 limbs, whales have four limbs, the others are vestigal now or part of their tails...
INSECTS...have multiple limbs...
Mammels do not. on Earth....
there have been countless sci fi / Nat Geo biology shows showing what evolution on other planets may be like..
I think the biggest failure here in this movie is the greatness of multilimbed creatures, and the wonderful variety of wild life showing.. and then you have giant blue skinned., 4 limbed smurf/elves...
Why couldn't James Cameron have gotten the bright idea to have co-hesiveness in his creatures to his intelligent, gorgeous Na'vi??
THat is a failure. I like my movies to have cohesiveness...its jarring to some sense in the brain.
It is a wonderful movie, great special effects, great creature creations... but lack of a good story, plot holes the size of the moon, and non cohesion, make my brain go OOOOOKKKK.

Are you really arguing about how realistically Cameron's made up creatures evolved in a sci-fi movie? I think sometimes you have to sit back and just enjoy a movie and not try to pick apart every small detail.

[Montessa Python]

I know I know.. as MSTK3 said.
Its just a show, so sit back and relax

[WingedWolfPsion]

This is fun for me. lol

[Montessa Python]

Sorry.. yet another GIANT plot hole.. as per goofs reported IMBD

Plot holes: Near the ending of the movie, after the Na'vi have taken over the base, when they are marching the human military back onto the cargo planes to leave they are not wearing any masks to protect them from the air.

[coldblooded]

Avatar is not the first nor the last movie to have a lot of plot holes. It isn't worth taking a fantasy movie and getting overly irritated at all the miniscule little things that weren't quite right.

From my experience with writing and creating visual things for story telling it is important to make things that the viewer can relate and connect to. Sure, the Na'vi were a lot more humanoid than what we would probably find on any other planet, but it enables us to connect and empathize with the race on a visceral level.

Yes, I enjoyed the movie. Sure, it had it's quirks/easter eggs but you will be very hard pressed to find a movie that doesn't.

[blackcrystal22]

Sorry.. yet another GIANT plot hole.. as per goofs reported IMBD

Plot holes: Near the ending of the movie, after the Na'vi have taken over the base, when they are marching the human military back onto the cargo planes to leave they are not wearing any masks to protect them from the air.

I don't know WHERE you got that from but it is wrong. After seeing the movie twice I remember pretty clearly that humans are ALL wearing masks at the end, unless there's a stray somewhere that I missed. (the second time around I was paying more attention to visualization and possible accidents such as that). Also, not wearing masks would not be considered a 'plot hole' because plot holes have to effect the plot and story itself. Even if they actually were missing the masks, which they were not, it would not have been incredibly detrimental to the story at the end of the movie.

[Montessa Python]

Black crystal...
You are right. IMBD is wrong...


I do want to share an edited for language version of what a friend wrote about this movie..
it is rather amusing.. whether you like it or not.. the review is hilarious.

2D -- we don't have an IMAX down here.

The CGI and visuals were stunning, probably the best I've ever seen....

The storyline sucked dead rhino behind...beyond dead rhino behind...a whole herd of dead rhinos with putrid dead behinds.
That had to be the dumbest, most derivative, most boring, most annoying plot and dialogue in a movie ever. The technology was idiotic and made no sense -- it truly was an insult to my intelligence. The characterization was also an insult to my intelligence and stupidly one dimensional beyond belief. Don't get me into the overdone "message" -- unless you want a rant.

I hope to one day see that sort of CGI work (although maybe not so much of it; it was spread on a bit thick) in an actual movie.
And if I ever see a blue cat-elf alien I'm afraid I'm going to try to beat it to death with a tire iron (seriously, those things SUPER ANNOYED (replaced bad word) me).
By the end I was starting to hope they'd make an Avatar 2...so the East India Trading Co. (er, the corporation) could come back with the regular military and kick the behinds(Bad word) out of the darn (bad word!!) blue catsmurfs. One word: napalm

Although I did have fun saying "win ga po" (together with appropriate hand signal) during the flick...oh, that and "tatonka" -- just because my behind was numb and I was bored silly by that point and wanted to slap Jake Sully.

[MarkieJ]

Black crystal...
You are right. IMBD is wrong...

Wow, this movie just hit a billion dollars worldwide. Kudos to James Cameron who now has 2 movies that made over a billion under his belt.

[WingedWolfPsion]

I remember them all wearing masks at the end as well.
If any were not, remember that you can hold your breath for a while, and there were a number of situations where people were depicted without masks, who then put them on after a short time outdoors.

As for the Na'vi--either you love blue cat people, or you do not. ^_^

[Blue Apple Herps]

I haven't read through the entire thread, but I thought it was a good movie; however, a great piece of "art". What I mean is that the story was so-so at best. But the visuals and the ground that was broken I think is amazing. The world and the people were completely believable as far as looking real (not necessarily believable as characters themselves).

This movie is the closest by far to CG looking like real life. The world of Pandora is breathtaking. If you do see it, definitely see it in 3D. I think this is a must see movie, and a must seen in the theatre movie as well.