Im down to only 3 red tails and i might breed them and i might not. I love having them around. I keep mine in the large vision cages and its really hard to get them back in. Im thinking of making a giant walk in cage in my basement with a fake tree inside for them to cruise on. And several branches on the walls for added climbing. They love to climb through the trees. They dont like being locked up in small tubs or cages. As a breeder i've kept them in large tubs for ever and only in the last year switched to the vision cages. But i think they need more room. im thinking about going with a 4x4x8 high cage with a sliding glass front door.