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    Re: I want to get this around!

    Someone just posted the same thing.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...14#post1225714

    The problem BG sees with this is the fact that a lot of what they say is in fact unfortunately TRUE.

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    Re: Wow is all I have to say

    Quote Originally Posted by snakemastercanada View Post
    Yes sir same old argument about the aoonotic diseases. So here is the full list for that.
    Common Zoonoses Source: http:www.cdc.gov/healthypets/browse_by_animal.htm
    Birds
    Chlamydia psittaci Infection (psittacosis)
    Cryptococcus Infection (cryptococcosis)
    Salmonella Infection (salmonellosis)
    Cats
    Campylobacter Infection (campylocacteriosis)
    Cat Scratch Disease (Bartonella henselae)
    Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever)
    Cryptosporidium Infection (cryptosporidiosis)
    Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm)
    Hookworm Infection
    Leptospira Infection (leptospirosis)
    Plague (Yersinia pestis) Infection
    Rabies
    Ringworm
    Roundworm
    Salmonella Infection (salmonellosis)
    Tapeworm (flea tapeworm)
    Toxocara Infection (toxocariasis, roundworm)
    Toxoplasma Infection (toxoplasmosis)
    Dogs
    Brucella canis Infection (brucellosis)
    Campylobacter Infection (campylobacteriosis)
    Cryptosporidium Infection (cryptosporidiosis)
    Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm)
    Giardia Infection (giardiasis)
    Hookworm Infection
    Leishmania Infection (leishmaniasis)
    Leptospira Infection (leptospirosis)
    Lyme Disease
    Q fever (Coxiella burnetti)
    Rabies
    Ringworm
    Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
    Roundworm
    Salmonella Infection (salmonellosis)
    Tapeworm (flea tapeworm)
    Toxocara Infection (toxocariasis, roundworm)
    Farm Animals
    Bovine spongiform encephalopthy (BSE, mad cow disease)
    Brucella Infection (brucellosis)
    Campylobacter Infection (campylobacteriosis)
    Cryptosporidium Infection (cryptosporidiosis)
    Escherichia coli O157:H7
    Q Fever (Coxiella burnetti) Infection
    Rabies
    Ringworm
    Salmonella Infection (salmonellosis)
    Yersinia enterocolitica (yersiniosis)
    Fish and Amphibians
    Salmonella Infection (salmonellosis)
    Horses
    Campylobacter Infection (campylobacteriosis)
    Cryptosporidium Infection (cryptosporidiosis)
    Leptospira Infection (Leptospirosis)
    Rabies
    Ringworm
    Salmonella Infection (salmonellosis)
    Reptiles
    Salmonella Infection (salmonellosis)
    Wildlife
    Baylisascaris Infection (raccoon roundworm)
    Brucella Infection (brucellosis)
    Giardia Infection (giardiasis)
    Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (hantavirus)
    Herpesvirus simiae Infection (B virus)
    Histoplasma Infection (histoplasmosis)
    Lymphocytic Choriomeningitis
    Mycobacterium tuberculosis Infection (TB)
    Plague (Yersinia pestis Infection)
    Rabies
    Tularemia
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    Re: I want to get this around!

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    The problem BG sees with this is the fact that a lot of what they say is in fact unfortunately TRUE.
    Well true it may be, we still have to beleive in what we love.

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    Re: I want to get this around!

    ITs ALL LIES AND PROPOGANDA I SAY!~!!
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    Re: I want to get this around!

    id like to see where they got their 1 million reptiles imported data from.

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    Re: Wow is all I have to say

    I love the whole salmonella angle..never mind that there are more things in the local produce and meat section of your neighborhood Wal-mart that have a higher risk of carrying that and far worse..But see that's not a creepy slimy snake..it would be eggs, steak.. I mean you don't see the Strawberry industry fighting for their life after 32 kids caught Hepatitis A from strawberrys at school now do you.. Or all the lead poisoning from China products nope they just slap their wrist and keep on collecting that pay check.
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    Re: Wow is all I have to say

    Quote Originally Posted by steveboos View Post
    That is amazing that the HSUS just completely say dont own reptiles at all. Its gotten to the point that the own society we go to to protect our animals, we now have to fight against. They are completely unreasonable and i can't believe they even published this article.
    Don't confuse the HSUS with the ASPCA. The ASPCA (the society that protects animals), actually went head to head the HSUS a while back; they were taking donations and not providing promised care to animals.

    HSUS is kind of like PETA. They are all talk and want all the credit they can possibly get and do no work. The ASPCA are the "good guys", so to speak. They actually step in and help the animals. As far as I know, the ASPCA also doesn't make a stance one way or another towards exotics pets. Any opinions I've ever gotten from them were individual and generally all felt "if you can care for it properly, we're okay with that."


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    Re: I want to get this around!

    We should compile a list of all the bad things that happen when people are irresponsible with mammal and bird pets. Like not getting proper shots, not spaying/neutering, dog fighting, chicken fighting, how many animals are euthanized because they can't find homes, stray cats, etc....

    I bet our list would be a whole lot longer and more detrimental than that tiny thing. Just 6% of salmonella cases is all you got? They get bigger and live long lifes? What happens when you buy a cute little husky puppy and it gets to be 150lbs?

    There's no reason we should be held accountable for wild caught animals just because there's no humane animal treatment rules in the countries they are caught. Put restrictions on import companies and hold them to a standard, like Nike using children to make their shoes.

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    Re: Wow is all I have to say

    This is pathetic...it's so...stupid. I don't know whether to laugh or cry...both I think.

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    Re: Wow is all I have to say

    Doesn't surprise me one bit. They'll use any angle they can, and spread any falsehood they can, to get their way.

    Y'know what's even better? They don't like the entire pet trade. The following quote is taken directly from their website.

    "The HSUS opposes the sale of dogs, cats, and other animals through pet stores and other commercial operations."

    So...they don't want any animal bought or sold. Interesting. I wonder just what they want to do with them, then....

    I've perused their spendatures from last year (they post their tax papers on their website). It's sad where most of their money seems to go: salaries and lobbying. And on another paper (accessible from their website) they state multiple times that in 2008, they helped just over 70,000 pets. I thought that a rather pathetic number for a company whose assets total nearly $200 million (again, from tax papers).

    Let's take a huge leap of faith and assume that this article from HSUS is accurate (difficult, I know): "Estimated number of cats and dogs entering shelters each year: 6-8 million." Wow, they helped 70,000 pets. That's really something to brag about for a group supposedly devoted to helping animals....
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