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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    The weight in and of itself isn't the issue. It's the snakes post egg laying weight that is important. That's why most believe 1500 grams is the smallest you should breed.

    A snake bred at 1300 grams will lose the same weight ratio as a 1500 gram snake. The smaller snake will not benefit from having and extra 200 grams to have on reserve after egg laying.

    I'm not judging you if you decide to breed, I'm just trying to explain why most have the opinion that 1500 grams is the weight where you can start breeding the snake.

    Good Luck!
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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    I'd wait.

    Imagine how many eggs she would give you if weighs around 2000 - 2200 grams? You're most likely to get a larger clutch from breeding her at that size.

    I wish you good luck either way.

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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    I'd wait.

    Imagine how many eggs she would give you if weighs around 2000 - 2200 grams? You're most likely to get a larger clutch from breeding her at that size.

    I wish you good luck either way.
    Heres her pic

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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    Quote Originally Posted by j_h_smith View Post
    The weight in and of itself isn't the issue. It's the snakes post egg laying weight that is important. That's why most believe 1500 grams is the smallest you should breed.

    A snake bred at 1300 grams will lose the same weight ratio as a 1500 gram snake. The smaller snake will not benefit from having and extra 200 grams to have on reserve after egg laying.

    I'm not judging you if you decide to breed, I'm just trying to explain why most have the opinion that 1500 grams is the weight where you can start breeding the snake.

    Good Luck!
    Jim Smith
    Thanks Jim..ooh, conflicting advice, might pull the male out
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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    I have been told by many reputable breeders to wait until females get 1800-2000 grams. You may be able to go earlier but you may also stress out your snake and maybe even kill her if she can't pass her eggs. Also bigger females lay more eggs and healthier eggs. Me personally my snakes are too important to me to take the chance 1 year early, 1 year will not kill me.

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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    Keep in mind, humans don't actually know the magic weight at which to start breeding females ball pythons.

    We have several proven breeder females under 1500 grams. They are healthy and lay healthy eggs from which healthy babies hatch. If we had waited until they got to 1500 g to breed them, we would have missed out on several clutches that have been quite important to our breeding program last year. We also have some 2000 + g girls that haven't produced anything for us yet.
    Would you breed a wobbler dog even though it had a cool coat?

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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    I think you will find that if you ask 10 people this question, you'll get 11 opinion. I guess when all is said and done, it will be your opinion that matters.

    Good Luck!
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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruceweb View Post
    Asked a breeder if it would be worth trying an 1200g female VPI Axanthic (hammering mice at the moment) he said to try her..put the het male in with her this morning..they are locked for the second time today, least ways twice that I have seen..will have to fire the grub into her now..hope it pans out well
    A little off topic but 1200g and still on mice??? Does she refuse to switch to rats??
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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    Quote Originally Posted by sg1trogdor View Post
    A little off topic but 1200g and still on mice??? Does she refuse to switch to rats??
    Yes but she is taking two or three at a time, ex breeders..trying to switch to rats, some will & some wont, mine all do well on mice but rats would be better
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    Re: is this weight enough to breed?..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    I'd wait.

    Imagine how many eggs she would give you if weighs around 2000 - 2200 grams? You're most likely to get a larger clutch from breeding her at that size.

    I wish you good luck either way.
    or you could breed her at 1300, get 3 or 4 eggs (or more if you're lucky), then breed her again the next year when shes around 2000 grams and get more
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