Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

[Eventide]

According to USARK's most recent Tweet, the bill has been amended to include only the nine species included in the bogus USGS paper. Yes, this means that ball pythons are off the chopping block, but it also means that there are nine species (including many subspecies) still threatened. Boa constrictors are on there too, though it doesn't say specifically if they're referring to all subspecies of boa constrictor or anything that's a boa that constricts. They need to list all species and subspecies in these bills instead of being stupidly vague.

[herpmanout82]

According to USARK's most recent Tweet, the bill has been amended to include only the nine species included in the bogus USGS paper. Yes, this means that ball pythons are off the chopping block, but it also means that there are nine species (including many subspecies) still threatened. Boa constrictors are on there too, though it doesn't say specifically if they're referring to all subspecies of boa constrictor or anything that's a boa that constricts. They need to list all species and subspecies in these bills instead of being stupidly vague.

Ok this sounds bad, who is on the side of this community? What about "big shots" like Jeff Corwin, Nigel what's-his-name and the rest of the Animal Planet crew? Are these fellas even remotely involved with the support of this bill or against?

[mainbutter]

The boa market is huge, I can't see that staying on the bill. Literally 90% of the boa market is in B.C.X species.

Anyone frequent any boa forums? Are they paying attention to this?

[nixer]

According to USARK's most recent Tweet, the bill has been amended to include only the nine species included in the bogus USGS paper. Yes, this means that ball pythons are off the chopping block, but it also means that there are nine species (including many subspecies) still threatened. Boa constrictors are on there too, though it doesn't say specifically if they're referring to all subspecies of boa constrictor or anything that's a boa that constricts. They need to list all species and subspecies in these bills instead of being stupidly vague.

did they have that in writing?
i find that highly doubtful

[Eventide]

Ok this sounds bad, who is on the side of this community? What about "big shots" like Jeff Corwin, Nigel what's-his-name and the rest of the Animal Planet crew? Are these fellas even remotely involved with the support of this bill or against?

I have no idea who those people are. I don't watch Animal Planet.

did they have that in writing?
i find that highly doubtful

Which part?

[Adam_Wysocki]

did they have that in writing?
i find that highly doubtful

Did they have what in writing?

-adam

[thegoalie22]

Sorry I was wrong it already states that you will *HAVE TO KILL ALL YOUR PYTHONS*, because the Lacey Act says so. It says that all importers or consignees to “promptly” export or destroy any prohibited animals or eggs at their own expense.
A consignee is the owner for those that don't know...

The s373 bill is to ad these snakes to the Lacey Act so that means bye bye all pythons and boas.

Wait, are you saying if this passes to include them, I would have to kill my ball python? I would probably commit suicide myself before I did that.

[Hypnotic Exotic]

Ok this sounds bad, who is on the side of this community? What about "big shots" like Jeff Corwin, Nigel what's-his-name and the rest of the Animal Planet crew? Are these fellas even remotely involved with the support of this bill or against?

Jeff Corwin is a pile of crap. There was an episode quite a while back where he rescued a boa constrictor from an apartment and made the statement that no one should keep these animals and they should be left in their environment where they belong.

[Eventide]

Hey, Adam, I can pick apart every, single argument in favor of this bill using only the most basic of logic. I'm a graduate student in astronomy; us real scientists can think logically. How can I get this across to the politicians? Sending it to the politicians won't do any good (probably) because they won't read it. Is it possible to get someone to argue the points for us? Or is it possible for a layperson to present the arguments to Congress themselves? I don't care about the cost of a plane ticket; I'm willing to fly to D.C. to do what I can to stop this ridiculous wannabe science and complete lack of intelligent thought. (I'd even drive if they'd let me bring some snakes with me to show them!)

And please, I'm not trying to puff myself up. Anyone who stops and thinks a little bit could point out how ridiculous these arguments are. It's clear these politicians don't care how many people call in. We need to find some other way to get reason through their thick skulls. The complete lack of thought in this country is frightening and it needs to stop!

[Andrew Larson]

I hate to be ignorant but what exactly will happen if or when this bill is passed? Will the sale of those 9 said species be illegal? Can individual breeders still trade among themselves?