Me either greghall. I will PM you my address when should I be home to take receipt of the ASF trio. For some people its not as easy as "get some ASF's" They are illegal in some places and just plain hard to find in others. If you have one snake that started on F/T had to be switched to live and has resisted all attempts to eat F/T since, picking up a breeding pair of rats is not a great solution either. I would get 1 to 3 feedings at a decent weight and then a bunch of rats that are too big. At least with mice I can feed multiple full grown adults. I would love to switch my snake to gerbils. I can get a breeding pair locally and BP love them. They have virtually no smell and are easy to handle and work with. Problem there being that everyone on the planet thinks that Gerbils are like crack cocaine wielding a knife. So until someone does an honest study on that I am not going there. Plus Gerbils are hard to breed compared to rats, ASF's or mice.