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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
They'll tell you what it takes to get you to quit calling.
First paragraph.
http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptil...ython-ban.aspx
 Originally Posted by flameethrower
Ive talked to many people on the phone and not one has said this ban will stop the interstate or breeding of pythons. This ban is to top ALL importing or shipping into the United States. I have searched hard online on .gov sites and those too only say Importing into the US, nothing about shipping within the States.
I spent good 30 mins on phone with Candice Miller of Michigan and she too has confirmed this ban is for Importing/shipping into the United States.
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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
Ive called and emailed/fax non stop this whole week.
But to say one thing to get someone to stop is un justified and against the law.
Im just pointing out that i have read the bill to see no where that is says interstate transport is being stopped as well.
the link you posted is opinion/blog. I want to see official documentation that states interstate transport is being banned as well.
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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
Have you read what the Lacey Act is?
 Originally Posted by flameethrower
Ive called and emailed/fax non stop this whole week.
But to say one thing to get someone to stop is un justified and against the law.
Im just pointing out that i have read the bill to see no where that is says interstate transport is being stopped as well.
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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
http://www.anstaskforce.gov/Document...Sheet_2007.pdf
What Does It Mean When a Species is Listed as Injurious
Wildlife?
Species listed as injurious (including their gametes and
viable eggs) may not be imported into the United States
or transported between the continental United States,
the District of Columbia, Hawaii, the Commonwealth of
Puerto Rico or any territory or possession of the United
States by any means without a permit issued by the
Service.
It later goes on to talk about animals use within a state is up to the state.
I hope that's the right bit of info.
 Originally Posted by flameethrower
I sure have
Last edited by 2kdime; 12-07-2009 at 11:08 PM.
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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
 Originally Posted by flameethrower
I sure have
if you have then you wouldnt continually bring up:
Im just pointing out that i have read the bill to see no where that is says interstate transport is being stopped as well.
the link you posted is opinion/blog. I want to see official documentation that states interstate transport is being banned as well.
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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
 Originally Posted by nixer
I want to see official documentation that states interstate transport is being banned as well.
http://www.fws.gov/Contaminants/ANS/ANSInjurious.cfm
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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
We did it!!! Come on we need everyone's help!!!
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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
 Originally Posted by flameethrower
Ive talked to many people on the phone and not one has said this ban will stop the interstate or breeding of pythons. This ban is to top ALL importing or shipping into the United States. I have searched hard online on .gov sites and those too only say Importing into the US, nothing about shipping within the States.
I spent good 30 mins on phone with Candice Miller of Michigan and she too has confirmed this ban is for Importing/shipping into the United States.
A species listed as injurious is by federal law prohibited from being imported, exported, and transferred between states. Further, if you sell someone a Lacey listed animal within your state knowing that it will be taken across state lines or exported, you are also in violation of the Lacey Act and subject to the same prison sentence and fines as the person that actually transports the snake. If you knowingly buy a Lacey listed animal that was transported across state lines or imported, you are guilty as well. This is the law as it was written and has been in place for decades.
At this point, I've sat down and spoken with staff members representing about 1/2 of our US Senators and staffers that represent about 40 US Representatives and the biggest problem we have is education. Our Congress, if they've even heard of HR2811/S373 have no idea what it means other than "stopping the giant pythons from taking over the country". This is the battle that I am fighting in Washington DC every day. They aren't misinformed because some organization in favor of the bill has lied to them, they are misinformed because in the Congress, this issue is so incredibly small in the grand scheme of whats going on down there they just haven't taken the time to educate themselves and they form opinions based solely on what they see on the news.
My mission is to educate. I am in Washington every day teaching people about the National Python & Boa Ban and what it means to hundreds of thousands of responsible pet owners. My hope is that I'm able to shed some light on this very serious issue and change some minds on the Hill. Please keep everyone that is fighting this thing in your thoughts and prayers.
Thank you to all that have chosen to do whatever you can to join the fight. You help is desperately needed and appreciated. You are the true heroes in this fight.
I've put together a page that has a lot of information about what's going on and links to resources related to the National Python & Boa Ban. I'll be adding to it as time goes on. If there is something that should be there and is not, please let me know.
http://www.natpet.org/pythonbantruth
-adam
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Re: Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!
Adam,
Thanks for everything you've done so far.
What's your take on the the language of the bill using the word genera instead of genus? A simple accident that will be corrected, or is this something that could be interpreted to mean more than one genus?
J
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