That makes sence about the staying on the coolside bg. However the pastel is a male and the normal female is a female she laid 6 eggs for me last year this is my third breeding season. I would love to raise the temps more but the heat sucks in my apartment and can't get it past that 74 75 range. I never had an issue before. It was weird cause the next day I opened her mouth and she was fone. So I took her to the vet and nothing showed up. So don't know what it was. But thanks again for the help bg greatly appreciated it just shocked me to open up the tub and see that. Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!