It seemed so wrong, but felt so right...

[jere000]

That is a new one. Never heard of sticking a pencil in a rodents mouth. Great - nope, don't think I'll be doing that either. Sorry, I just don't see it....I don't see how pinching the tongs was more cruel...really a pencil? What about the lead, the splinters, the opportunity for the snake to get hurt by that....that is by far the wildest definition I have heard called humane....

The rats don't chew it up so there is no chunks of wood or anything and the lead does not come out or if you want use a piece of like plastic kinda like when people grind their teeth they need those things, also i would like to remark on the immature thing the way you reacted to every little suggestion even if there was no rude remark in it you responded childishly and I'm only 14.