Okay. The rodents are going to die. So are you. So right before you die can i crush your jaw? And im glad you brought up the nature aspect. If you want to bring that up, then let nature take its course with your snakes. Snakes in the wild get bit and scared. Thats nature. Yes the rats are going to die anyways and i understand that. But to crush them, even while restrained by the snakes, is in everyway awful. No matter when you did it, as long as they were alive on conscious, its awful. And just because you are offended by my response and opinion doesnt mean what i have said does not contribute to the thread. So next time you feed live, since in nature animals are cruel, let nature take its course and let your snake deal with its prey. The species has gotten this far so i think it can handle itself.