well ive had them for about 3 weeks already and ive had my normals het pied for 2 months i just sold the spider female that i had she was really nice but as soon as i saw these 2 pastels i was in love lol trust me i want them to fatten up the thing i like about bps is the way they get fat and stay short lol thank you guys for your advise and comments and such a warm welcome ill make sure my babies get nice and fat real soon