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    Cleanest bel's ?

    What combo produces the cleanest Blue eyed Lucy's?
    I have only seen the Mohave X Mohave Bel in person.

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    Re: Cleanest bel's ?

    According to Ralph Davis the cleanest lucy's are created by breeding Platty to Lesser if you havent been to his site already I'd highly recommend checking it out. He has write-ups on many differnt morphs.

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    Re: Cleanest bel's ?

    I always thought the lesser pied was the cleanest.

    I just read your post again. I'm not sure what color their eyes are.

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    Re: Cleanest bel's ?

    ..lesser pied is not a BEL..

    lesser x lesser and lesser x butter and butter x butter are all pretty good and are a great choice if you want an all white, patternless snake.

    I think het russos also make very nice and clean BELs.

    Mojos, specials, phantoms and the other morphs in the BEL complex seem to leave coloration or patterning in.

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    Re: Cleanest bel's ?

    Ralph Davis has a video on youtube where he is showing his all white lesser pied. He also claims it is the cleaneast all white snake.

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    Re: Cleanest bel's ?

    lesser pied doesn't have blue eyes

    from everything I've seen, just don't use mojave and you'll get a clean white snake

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    Re: Cleanest bel's ?

    I stand corrected. I thought an all white snake was a bel (regardless on eye color).

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    Re: Cleanest bel's ?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post

    just don't use mojave and you'll get a clean white snake
    Actually Mojave X Mocha makes a REALLY white BEL and same with Lesser X Mojave we hatched out 3 Lesser X Mojave Bels this year and they are PURE white!

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    Re: Cleanest bel's ?

    Quote Originally Posted by marct View Post
    I stand corrected. I thought an all white snake was a bel (regardless on eye color).
    bel = Blue Eye'd Leucistic

    Leucistic means lacking all pigment in the skin. which alot of snakes we call leucistic arn't true leucistics such as the super mojave because they do have pigment in the skin... so yea. theres also super fires which are black eye'd leucistics, but most of them have yellow spots which also makes them not true leucistics lol. i guess in the snake world "close enough" is good enough to call them leucistic.

    Lesser/Butter x Lesser/Butter = Clean
    Lesser/Butter x Phantom/Mystic = Clean
    Lesser/Butter x Russo Het = Clean
    Russo Het x Russo Het = Clean
    Anything with Mojave = Not pure white
    I donno if a Russo Het x Phantom/Mystic has been done...

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    Re: Cleanest bel's ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloanreptiles View Post
    Actually Mojave X Mocha makes a REALLY white BEL and same with Lesser X Mojave we hatched out 3 Lesser X Mojave Bels this year and they are PURE white!
    The pics you posted looked pretty yellowed out to me.

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