Spider BPs and genetic / neuroligical problems?

[Karbon]

I want to pick up a Spider this weekend after debating whether or not I should get another snake for the past oh... 5 months now.

I have looking at all of the morphs and the spider just appeals to me alot, plus the price point is spiffy!

Anywho... In my skimming... I noticed someone said something about some spiders having neuroligical / genetic problems that cause them to tilt their head or 'corkscrew' around their heads. Is this true? And if so, what are the signs I should look for if i'm going to be picking up a relatively young Spider?

I don't want to have just read some mis-information. Mostly, I just want to make sure if it is true, that I pickup a BP that isn't going to be a complete headache and financial drain as I don't have all the time or money in the world!

Thanks in advance!

[Wh00h0069]

Anywho... In my skimming... I noticed someone said something about some spiders having neuroligical / genetic problems that cause them to tilt their head or 'corkscrew' around their heads.

Was the person a geneticist? I have no idea if it is true or not. I speculate that there is a genetic issue with their equilibrium, but I have no research to back that up. I have owned quite a few spiders, and have noticed this in some and not in others. Either way, they are great eaters, breeders, and pets. I recommend that all ball python people have at least one in their collection.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

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Do your research be informed and know what to expect and decide if whether or not spiders and their combos are for you.

I have done my research and have been owning and working with Spiders for the past 3 years now and never had any regret about it.

[BiggBaddWolf]

From what I understand all spiders exhibit this problem, some to a more or lesser degree than others, and some tend to display it when they are younger and will outgrow it, and some tend to get worse with age, so it is just a gamble to what you will get. I recently got a spider, and while he does show SOME tendencies, he is no where near what I have seen in some videos on youtube, now whether he will get worse or improve with age remains to be seen. Also they say when they become more stressed is when the problem really shows itself. When I bought mine I took him out of the deli cup he was in, and handled him, and watched him for awhile to see how he acted, and he was good enough that I decided I wanted him
But anyway he has a great feeding response, as they say most spiders do. So good luck!!!!!

[Mike Cavanaugh]

Deborah beat me to it. You really are better off looking through the old threads on this subject. It is something that has been discussed and argued in such detail in the past for so long that many people, including myself, don't even want to talk about it any more.


Mike

[Karbon]

Thanks for the replies.

I didn't realize it was something that was almost in every Spider out there.
I was mostly making sure it wasn;t something that affected their ability to do things like eat, shed or breed.

Now I know what to look for! Still doesn;t make me not want to get a Spider. They're so cool looking and I LOVE the color of their eyes.

[Jenn]

I have a bee with a wicked corkscrew. Didn't show up until he was about a year old. He is my favorite snake by a long shot. I actually have him in a display tank because he spends so much time out of the hides. He has a great feeding response and is growing like a weed. He seems to be able to switch it on or off at will. But he refuses to do it while being handled.

[SlitherinSisters]

I just picked up my first spider a couple weeks ago. They are definitely special I didn't notice any wobbles with my guy, but he missed a non moving target 3 times and took 30 minutes figuring out how to eat it. I've heard they are great eaters and I would have to agree with what I've seen so far. It took him about 10 seconds to attempt the first strike, and the other two were almost instantly after one another. I fed him a few days after I brought him home from the show and he was nuts!

I say go for it! Even if it has wobbles it shouldn't really affect the snake.

[Watever]

Spider can and most of the wobble from what I have heard and see.

Enough in my opinion to stay away.

If you like the spider for their pattern and color etc... get a Woma they migth be a bit harder and a bit more expensive to find but they are worth it. There is also the WOMA HG that nerd have, but you won,t find them much around and are really more expensive. The combos on nerd site are from that line of woma. But woma are something nice to have I think.

[jason79]

I have 2 spider females. I have only had them for a month or so and they are 09's but I haven't noticed any spinning or wobble. So if they do its very minor because I haven't seen it even when feeding. They do have a great feeding response both of mine ate the day after I brought them home and have eaten every 5 days since. I think maybe the more they get out crossed the less of the problem there is.