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    ? About killer bee!

    Ive read many diffrent things about how to get killer bees. i am going to be breeding ball pythons in 2 years. im waiting that long because i want to get all the info i can on it before i do it.. and i need to wait for my ball pythons to get to breeding size. and the main thing i want to do is to hatch out killer bees! and then move up to queen bees maybe my 2nd year of breeding.. ive heard you can get them by the following-

    bumble bee x pastel

    which you can get
    killer bees
    bumble bees
    pastels
    super pastels
    spiders
    normals

    bumble bee x super pastel
    killer bee
    bumble bee
    pastel
    super pastel

    and then bumble bee x bumble bee
    which i think you would get
    bumble bees
    killer bees
    super pastels
    and mayber spiders?

    well what are the odds for all those and is that the only way to get killer bees? and if i made a mistake please let me know.

    thanks!!!

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    Re: ? About killer bee!

    In order to produce a Killerbee (Super Pastel Spider), both of the parents need to carry at least one allel for the Pastel gene, and at least one parent needs to carry an allel for the Spider gene. So the minimum gene requirements in a pairing that can produce Killerbees is Pastel x Pastel Spider (Bumblebee).

    Pastel x Pastel Spider (Bumblebee):
    1/8 Normal
    1/8 Spider
    1/4 Pastel
    1/4 Pastel Spider (Bumblebee)
    1/8 Super Pastel
    1/8 Super Pastel Spider (Killerbee)

    Super Pastel x Pastel Spider (Bumblebee):
    1/4 Pastel
    1/4 Pastel Spider (Bumblebee)
    1/4 Super Pastel
    1/4 Super Pastel Spider (Killerbee)

    The "Homozygous Spider" is a debate, so I won't go into a Bumblebee x Bumblebee pairing.
    Last edited by LGL; 11-12-2009 at 01:22 AM.
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    Re: ? About killer bee!

    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew24 View Post
    and then bumble bee x bumble bee
    which i think you would get
    bumble bees
    killer bees
    super pastels
    and mayber spiders?
    Just to say this one can definately produce spiders - and also normals.


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    Re: ? About killer bee!

    Bumblebee x Bumblebee (assuming no homozygous Spiders):

    3/16 Killer Bee
    1/16 Super Pastel
    6/16 Bumblebee
    2/16 Pastel
    3/16 Spider
    1/16 Normal
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    Re: ? About killer bee!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eventide View Post
    Bumblebee x Bumblebee (assuming no homozygous Spiders):

    3/16 Killer Bee
    1/16 Super Pastel
    6/16 Bumblebee
    2/16 Pastel
    3/16 Spider
    1/16 Normal
    Hmmm good job
    small point though It's not a 1:16 is a 1:8.
    Last edited by Freakie_frog; 11-12-2009 at 04:36 PM.
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    Re: ? About killer bee!

    Thanks! everbody for your help!

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