HELP!!!bp's lost in the mail what are the chances??

[stealthk7gsxr]

actually snakes have come thru the post office, along with many other animals. some offices are more strict than others, some give better care and attention to animals than others. either way when shipping live animals it is STRONGLY recommended that it is shipped EXPRESS MAIL with clear markings on the box of whats inside and what care is needed. like i said most offices will try their best to accomidate that. now why yours stopped with tracking might be a number of things, weather, traffic, overload at that facility, depending on the type of shipping it may only require a scan at arrival unit and delivered scan, maybe in your case that label cant be read (which is quite often) or scanned, or it got misdirected (which also happens). which is why its recommended express mail. express and registered mail are the most secure mail there is. either way i hope your new additions get you safely.

[MsPrada]

Well I dunno. All I know is they have strict guidelines that say NO snakes, but some other animals are permitted.

Good luck and hope they get there ok.

[WingedWolfPsion]

Ok, here's what the law says:

If you RECEIVE the snakes, KNOWING they were mailed to you in an improperly marked package, you ARE breaking the Lacey Act law. And the fines are very high if you are caught. It's not only the shipper who is cited, but also the receiver.

Your only recourse to avoid becoming an accomplice is to reject the package when it arrives. But of course, no compassionate person would do such a thing, because the animals would most likely die as a result of it.

This is how these bad shippers keep going on the way they are--they make their buyers into accomplices. Anyone who signs for and accepts such a package cannot make a complaint, because they themselves are in violation of the law.

This is obviously a very BIG problem with the Lacey Act, but at the moment, that is the way things are.

And I'm sorry, but no one who ships a snake through USPS is a good guy. Maybe they were once, but this behavior pretty much eliminates it. That's like saying 'oh, this guy deliberately sent me a dead snake once, but that was just one incident, he's always been a good guy to deal with'. REALLY???

But this is even worse. This is turning his customer into a criminal, as well as risking the lives of the animals the customer paid for. How is this the behavior of a GOOD guy?

[Shiffy420]

yes they were mailed overnight express and were guaranteed to be here by noon today. that did not happen, tracking info stopped last night, and nobody can find the package. the thought of these snakes curled up all cold in somewarehouse is making me sick though i just hope to hell they made it out of vt because today is like the first actual chilly day. I know it's nov but i'm still wearing shorts out but this was to be the last thing i ordered untill the spring. i still have my fingers crossed it makes it here tom. and they are still alive and well. i just hope your right and they wont confiscate it. I mean what would they do w/ the snakes if they did?

[WingedWolfPsion]

The snakes would be sent to a local shelter or wildlife rescue.

[stealthk7gsxr]

yes they were mailed overnight express and were guaranteed to be here by noon today. that did not happen, tracking info stopped last night, and nobody can find the package. the thought of these snakes curled up all cold in somewarehouse is making me sick though i just hope to hell they made it out of vt because today is like the first actual chilly day. I know it's nov but i'm still wearing shorts out but this was to be the last thing i ordered untill the spring. i still have my fingers crossed it makes it here tom. and they are still alive and well. i just hope your right and they wont confiscate it. I mean what would they do w/ the snakes if they did?

well express mail is a high priority with us and if it didnt make it before noon then there is a good chance it was confiscated from one of the hubs. pm me with the scan and ill try and check it out for you

[TraceyS]

Hope they turn up for you!! The weather wouldn't worry me too much at this time but more the dehydration factors. If they are packaged well though you should be good. Keep us posted!!

Sorry to hear about your dad.

[Shiffy420]

i mean that would still suck but atleast they'd be alive. i just hope they arrive tom. safe and sound. i've spent my entire day on the phone trying to track them down and looking up online if they can survive. i've made myself sicck with worry!!

[rabernet]

I'm also sorry to hear that they were lost, but he made a HUGE mistake shipping them through USPS, since it IS a violation of the Lacey Act and both you and he could face stiff monetary fines as well as imprisonment if the USPS decided to prosecute if they realize he shipped snakes.

The likelyhood of that happening doesn't seem to be huge, as I've not heard of anyone prosecuted, however, the fact is that he just committed a felony by shipping them and you are equally liable if you accept them (if found out).

Good luck, I hope they arrive safely, but he's on my list of someone not to do business with now. Anyone in the "biz" as long as you say he's been knows this.

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Ok i have read every single post. First off I agree with those who think we have an overly jumpy moderator who should not be bashing people so fast before reading entire posts. Whats that job description again??

As for the snakes.

The seller might be a "good guy" but you only need to make one HUGE mistake like this to ruin your reputation.

I could completely understand if he did ship via FedEx or UPS and the snakes were lost as long as he did reinburse you but he didnt. In fact he flat out lied to you, his high paying customer.

As a reputable breeder he should know the horrible consequences if he chose to take that shortcut.

Its not that he didnt know. Or he is new to the game. He knew and he lied. That is where the difference is. Does everyone really think that he should be allowed to keep his untarnished reputation even if he makes this right?

It would be one thing if he shipped FedEx like he said he did. Then lost the snakes and refunded the buyer. That would be what a responsible person would do. It would deserves respect and understanding that the mistake was not his fault & he did in fact make it right.

This is not what happened. He was fully aware its illegal to ship through the mail. This "good guy" of a breeder is a liar. That is bad business. Period.

You have my condolences and i seriously do hope the snakes arrive ok for you.