i got them off kingsnake forum from dan foley. they are so expensive because they are adults. i would have thought it was a scam if i didn't see any trancking info but it starts out received at the postoffice in the same city i addressed the MO. at 11 something yesterday, then the next scan says processed in sorting facility in another location in vt then says "package has left the facility" and that's it. but when i've talked to all the ppl at usps the shipping address is to my house. so he shipped me something guaranteed to be here by noon. and trust me i realize this is a LOT of money i've realized it allllllll day long and now even have a splitting headache. Guarantee or not imo is all void when he change the agreement and shipped usps making me commit a felony.