Cinnamon VS Black Pastel

[MarkS]

mojave is what they call a deluted gene. lesser and mojave are different, but lesser x butter is the same thing as cinny x black pastel, same morph different line.

i can put 2 normals next to each other that will look way more different than the cinny/black pastel you posted above, could probally find pastels that look more different. there are cinny/black pastels that look pretty similar.

Not it's not. I've never heard of mojave being called a diluted gene. It's simply a different mutation of the same gene that lesser is a mutation of.

Sure, there is quite a bit of variability in ball pythons, but, for the most part, a normal is obviously a normal, a cinnamon is obviously a cinnamon and a black pastel is obviously a black pastel. I think it is pretty easy to distinguish the differences between most cinnamons and most black pastels, which to my mind makes it a different mutation.

Ok so the pewters would all look the same even though they may have cinny or black pastel behind them?

Personally I think they look different and I think most of the time (not always of course, as I mentioned above there is quite a bit of variability in ball pythons) it's easy to distinguish between pewters made with black pastels and pewters made with cinnamons.