i have a caramel male and het female both adults, and are proven breeders. both clutches they have produced have had babies with no kinks or defects at all. the secret is to out cross them. my male is from brian sharp which is a bell line.the het female was produced by 8ball pythons and is a nerd line, plus we incubate them a little drier medium tghan you would normally use. my male caramel has a slight kink,at the very tip of his tail but produces perfect kink free babies