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spider and pied
I have a female spider that when she gets big enough I would like to breed her,.... I was thinking a pied ball ... So I understand that I would have to breed back the off spring to the father pied, but what I am wondering would be .... what would the het spider/pied bred to the pied father.. look like... would it still carry the markings of the spider? or what would it appear like?
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Re: spider and pied
A spied? 
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Re: spider and pied
you could get both normal pieds and spider pieds.
Male = Piebald
Female = Spider het. Piebald
Offspring predicted as:
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25.00% Normal(het. Piebald)
25.00% Piebald
25.00% Spider (het. Piebald)
25.00% Spider Piebald
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Re: spider and pied
The first generation -- the ones heterozygous for both spider and pied -- will look like normals.
Would you breed a wobbler dog even though it had a cool coat?
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Re: spider and pied
Would the pied genes effect the markings of the spider like it does to the normal pied?
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Re: spider and pied
 Originally Posted by marct
Would the pied genes effect the markings of the spider like it does to the normal pied?
Most of the times the Spied is all white with the spider marked head.
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Re: spider and pied
Really? I just don't get the whole spider thing. There is so much mystery with this morph. IMO
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Re: spider and pied
Originally Posted by CritterVet
The first generation -- the ones heterozygous for both spider and pied -- will look like normals.
no they will look like spiders
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Re: spider and pied
I was wrong in my previous post....since spider is a dominant gene, the spider x pied offspring will all look like spiders. I'm working with the clown gene (recessive) this season and was thinking clown when I wrote that post. Sorry! 
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