My annoyance on genetic ignorance.

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Dont worry. This isnt an all out bashing. Im just noticing a disturbing number of people that do not know the correct ingredients for certain morphs. Yet they are not aware that the info they have is wrong. So they continue to pass on wrong info to other people interested in breeding.

The major problem i have with this is people will then believe the info they recieved and when they do produce offspring, they are going to advertise it wrong. Then other uneducated or uninformed people will buy this morph believing it to be one thing, when it is in fact, a completely different morph than what it was sold as.. They will be "breeding" more uneducated people by passing on this wrong info.

Right here on this forum we have stickies that tell you most of the known morphs and the combo/combos used to produce them. I hope more people who are still learning will actually read these posts and do more research before claiming they know this morph. There is also a great book called The Complete Ball Python. Not to mention many top breeders who are more than willing to talk to people who are interested.

Many members here are notorious for correcting or bashing people who they feel is wrong. But in the case of properly identifying a certain BP morph, & then passing on that info, i believe these members should be givin kudos for all the correcting they do. As long as they are right. Without them this hobby/business would suffer.

[T&C Exotics]

I agree with you 100% and then some. I have seen way to many times people who have not even bred a single year give out breeding advice and combo advice when they have no actual clue what is goin on or what they are talking about. I am more annoyed by the ignorance passed along than anything else. I wish people would take the time to learn the hobby and then give advice and not just repeat what the person in the last 45 posts already said and claim it as their own advice. If I keep going this is going to be realy long so I am going to stop.

[cinderbird]

I agree with you 100% and then some. I have seen way to many times people who have not even bred a single year give out breeding advice and combo advice when they have no actual clue what is goin on or what they are talking about. I am more annoyed by the ignorance passed along than anything else. I wish people would take the time to learn the hobby and then give advice and not just repeat what the person in the last 45 posts already said and claim it as their own advice. If I keep going this is going to be realy long so I am going to stop.

I've yet to breed anything but i have a very good understanding of basic genetics. And i try to give answers to the people that post these kind of topics as a test for myself to make sure i'm getting the combos and genetics right. But i am one of those people who never stops researching something they love.

But i do agree with what you're saying. I feel that someone giving the wrong info on THIS forum is quickly corrected because there are so many knowledgeable members.

[blackcrystal22]

Just don't mistake people asking questions about genetics in a post for them trying to tell everyone that they're right.

When someone is wrong, make a point to correct them, because they may think that they're right and if you don't do anything to politely correct them, they won't know the proper genetics.

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

I agree with you 100% and then some. I have seen way to many times people who have not even bred a single year give out breeding advice and combo advice when they have no actual clue what is goin on or what they are talking about. I am more annoyed by the ignorance passed along than anything else. I wish people would take the time to learn the hobby and then give advice and not just repeat what the person in the last 45 posts already said and claim it as their own advice. If I keep going this is going to be realy long so I am going to stop.

lol yep. Sometimes its best to stop or we get infractions!!

But anyway.. This came about when i read a thread where someone asked what goes into making a certain morph. I saw more than one answer that was completely wrong. Thankfully more than one person corrected the people who were wrong. If id seen that thread sooner i would have been the one making the first correction since the morph in question is one im working on producing right now.

Also just go look at some adds on kingsnake. Its not very common but once in awhile you will see a ball advertised as one thing but in the picture it is clearly another. Im not sure how this happens. Its either got to be scammers trying to take advantage of the new people wanting BP's, or "breedeers" who simply dont know what they are producing. Either way. Its a very bad thing.

[NorthernRegius]

Sadly mis-information is found outside the confines of forums every day. There are two pet-shops in my town. The one I do business with is knowledgeable & knows the basics on morphs, the other place is busy telling folks all the wrong stuff.

Example: they've been telling customers that you can get a visual from breeding a recessive het- to a normal BP. That's how WRONG they are! No amount of talking to them is changing their ill-advice either.

The guy at the shop works for the local zoo (scary ain't it?) & thinks he's a bleedin' authority on all critters. Just because you can feed 'em don't mean you know thing 1 about breeding them, say I.

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Just don't mistake people asking questions about genetics in a post for them trying to tell everyone that they're right.

When someone is wrong, make a point to correct them, because they may think that they're right and if you don't do anything to politely correct them, they won't know the proper genetics.

Oh no.. I dont ever look down on someone for asking a question. I applaud them. There is no dumb question and we have all been there at some point. Im no expert by far. I too have read books, researched online, personally talked to & befriended many breeders. Constantly trying to learn more. What bothers me is people will answer these questions and give wrong answers.

I dont mean an opinion either. I mean giving a genetically wrong answer. Like saying the american flag is red white and yellow.. Thats not an opinion. Its a wrong answer. Thats what i mean.

I dont mistake qustion & opinions for factual or wrong answers.

[blackcrystal22]

Oh no.. I dont ever look down on someone for asking a question. I applaud them. There is no dumb question and we have all been there at some point. Im no expert by far. I too have read books, researched online, personally talked to & befriended many breeders. Constantly trying to learn more. What bothers me is people will answer these questions and give wrong answers.

I dont mean an opinion either. I mean giving a genetically wrong answer. Like saying the american flag is red white and yellow.. Thats not an opinion. Its a wrong answer. Thats what i mean.

I dont mistake qustion & opinions for factual or wrong answers.

Well, being forgiving is part of this hobby too. No one is perfect, and people can make mistakes sometimes. I know I have.

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Sadly mis-information is found outside the confines of forums every day. There are two pet-shops in my town. The one I do business with is knowledgeable & knows the basics on morphs, the other place is busy telling folks all the wrong stuff.

Example: they've been telling customers that you can get a visual from breeding a recessive het- to a normal BP. That's how WRONG they are! No amount of talking to them is changing their ill-advice either.

The guy at the shop works for the local zoo (scary ain't it?) & thinks he's a bleedin' authority on all critters. Just because you can feed 'em don't mean you know thing 1 about breeding them, say I.

I bet you they (or someone there) knows how wrong they are. Problem is they see so much potential in BP's right now. The interest has skyrocketed and breeding and genetic interest has as well. They only see $$$ when they pass on info like that.

Man i wish i wasnt out of the circuit for so long. I got back into at a bad time it seems

[blackcrystal22]

Sadly mis-information is found outside the confines of forums every day. There are two pet-shops in my town. The one I do business with is knowledgeable & knows the basics on morphs, the other place is busy telling folks all the wrong stuff.

Example: they've been telling customers that you can get a visual from breeding a recessive het- to a normal BP. That's how WRONG they are! No amount of talking to them is changing their ill-advice either.

The guy at the shop works for the local zoo (scary ain't it?) & thinks he's a bleedin' authority on all critters. Just because you can feed 'em don't mean you know thing 1 about breeding them, say I.

If and when I work at a zoo in my future (I hope to) there won't be any of that talk around me!