Ok im halfway there. Today i picked up two 1.5 colonys of ASF's with 10 extra feeder males for a 3rd holding tank. Im still going to be short on rodents for a couple months but if i can find enough others to get me through until i have litters growing up i should be fine. Even if i have to drive back to the city in a couple weeks for another group of extra feeders. I also have a small local reptile show twice a month here. I was just told i can get rodents there and 30lb bags of lab blocks for less than $20. That sure beats what set stores charge. I do have quite a few frozen rodents still but only 5 of the 15 balls will take them so i have a lot of converting to do. I don't think breeding season is the best time for trying to convert when im trying to make sure everyone eats well right now. I was going to go with just mice but im glad i got the ASF's. These ASF ASF actually handleable. They don't bite and are relaxed as long as you move slowly w them. Im surprised.