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Re: I need mucho helpo!
 Originally Posted by Danounet
Since you are 16, here is my 2 cents.
Like you said $350. The best thing to do in my opinion would be to buy 2 Female pastels HATCHLINGS and grow them up. By the time you are moving out or making decissions on your own about your living situation they will able to breed. You can buy the male (in this case a spider for bee's) somewhere between that time since they can breed younger. You will learn alot about them too.
If were in your situation I would go this way: try to save a little more and buy a female pastel and a female spider. Then buy a male pastel a little later. That way you have a shot at making bumble bees and super pastels down the road.
Dont jump to conclusions and kill a "child's" (for lack of a better word at the moment, is late and Im tired  ) dream.
You all (meaning most) point out things in such a negative way! Give him some credit. At least he is trying to make a plan out of his future live, which I cant say the same about most people... Hell Im 26 and Im still trying to figure out what to keep studying!
thank you, you are one of the few people who haven't jumped down my throat.
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Re: I need mucho helpo!
Do you have a plan for what is going to happen to these animals when/if you go to college? Most colleges require freshman to live on campus, and you CANNOT have any live animals besides fish on campus, PERIOD. Dont try to sneak it in, or pull a fast one, it wont work. I think you should just keep this as a hobby and not try to get into breeding until you are settled more, and by that time morphs will be much less expensive and much more available to the average keeper. I know it sucks, but sometimes waiting is definitely worth it. Good luck.
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Re: I need mucho helpo!
 Originally Posted by Danounet
Since you are 16, here is my 2 cents.
Like you said $350. The best thing to do in my opinion would be to buy 2 Female pastels HATCHLINGS and grow them up. By the time you are moving out or making decissions on your own about your living situation they will able to breed. You can buy the male (in this case a spider for bee's) somewhere between that time since they can breed younger. You will learn alot about them too.
If were in your situation I would go this way: try to save a little more and buy a female pastel and a female spider. Then buy a male pastel a little later. That way you have a shot at making bumble bees and super pastels down the road.
Dont jump to conclusions and kill a "child's" (for lack of a better word at the moment, is late and Im tired  ) dream.
You all (meaning most) point out things in such a negative way! Give him some credit. At least he is trying to make a plan out of his future live, which I cant say the same about most people... Hell Im 26 and Im still trying to figure out what to keep studying!
Great advice. That is what i am doing right now!!! lol. Or trying to at least. I have a normal female and am trying to buy a pastel female. 09's then i want to get a pinstripe female as soon as i get money. Then im going to get one spider male once theyre big enough. Which leads me to say that they dont have to get both pastels if they dont want to. They could get something for a different combo they like.
I would just go with a female pastel and a female of something else that you like because when you actually do pastel x spider you are most likley going to get some pastels or spiders that you could use to breed instead of buying a new male. Or you could sell them for what ever your looking for. I wouldnt buy a female spider as an 09 to breed to a pastel. You dont really need two pastels and two spiders unless thats all you want to do is breed bumblebees, then you could still get along with just pastel females and one spider male.
 Originally Posted by aaramire
Do you have a plan for what is going to happen to these animals when/if you go to college? Most colleges require freshman to live on campus, and you CANNOT have any live animals besides fish on campus, PERIOD. Dont try to sneak it in, or pull a fast one, it wont work. I think you should just keep this as a hobby and not try to get into breeding until you are settled more, and by that time morphs will be much less expensive and much more available to the average keeper. I know it sucks, but sometimes waiting is definitely worth it. Good luck.
Most colleges only require freshmen to live on campus if they live far away from home. I have no idea of all campus rules but some may accept snakes. I wouldnt know. When I go to college I plan on keeping my snakes at home and driving home on the weekends since its only like an hour away. Then after a year or two I can look for an apartment/ rent place that allows pets. Or not. I might not even have to do that.
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Re: I need mucho helpo!
I think you made a good decision. Get a nice 09 Pastel and Spider and raise them. That's what I'm doing. You gain much more appreciation/understanding for the snake!
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Re: I need mucho helpo!
 Originally Posted by I<3Dreamsicles
Most colleges only require freshmen to live on campus if they live far away from home. I have no idea of all campus rules but some may accept snakes. I wouldnt know. When I go to college I plan on keeping my snakes at home and driving home on the weekends since its only like an hour away. Then after a year or two I can look for an apartment/ rent place that allows pets. Or not. I might not even have to do that.
Trust me, college campuses WILL not allow any animals on campus, thats just how it is. I am currently in college and living off campus in order to keep my snakes.
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Re: I need mucho helpo!
keep Striven man. Dont let all those sap suckers talk you down. besides the way the market is eating its self im sure you can find some sweet deals. But it wouldn't be a bad Idea to get two pastels like what was mentioned above and save up some cash, so when they are ready to breed you could get a spider male and produce some killer bee's I mean they can breed at 500 grams easily. I recommend a bit more weight though. Keep it up and shop around.
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Re: I need mucho helpo!
Hi,
 Originally Posted by cornball252
keep Striven man. Dont let all those sap suckers talk you down. besides the way the market is eating its self im sure you can find some sweet deals. But it wouldn't be a bad Idea to get two pastels like what was mentioned above and save up some cash, so when they are ready to breed you could get a spider male and produce some killer bee's I mean they can breed at 500 grams easily. I recommend a bit more weight though. Keep it up and shop around.
Just to point out using the phrase "stunning bee's" would have been better as killerbees are a morph in their own right that he would be unable to produce in the first generation with those ingredients. 
I know what you meant but I just thought I'd mention it to avoid confusion later. 
dr del
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Re: I need mucho helpo!
 Originally Posted by dr del
Hi,
Just to point out using the phrase "stunning bee's" would have been better as killerbees are a morph in their own right that he would be unable to produce in the first generation with those ingredients.
I know what you meant but I just thought I'd mention it to avoid confusion later.
dr del
Haha I didnt even see my mistake... I ment to write Bumble bee male... SHHH dont tell any one! >_<
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Re: I need mucho helpo!
 Originally Posted by aaramire
Trust me, college campuses WILL not allow any animals on campus, thats just how it is. I am currently in college and living off campus in order to keep my snakes.
Just so you know there are multiple colleges out there that allow animals, you just have to look around. Freshman year I was able to keep 4 snakes, a camel spider and a sugar glider in my room. Multiple people had dogs, cats and other animals. Im not saying this is true for most schools but you can find it if you look.
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Re: I need mucho helpo!
As far as state schools go, you are not allowed to keep animals on campus.
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