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    Re: Red Tail Boa and IBD and transmission to BP's

    Quote Originally Posted by Eventide View Post
    From the same paper linked (re: liver biopsies):

    "The disease affects all organ systems and the inclusions
    can be found in virtually all cell types. The epithelia of
    the liver, pancreatic gland, kidneys and gastric mucosa contain
    the highest density of affected cells (Garner and
    Raymond 2004).

    "The best way to achieve diagnosis in a living snake is to
    perform a wedge biopsy of the liver through a flank incision.
    A biopsy of the tonsils on the surface of the oesophagus or
    a biopsy of the gastric mucosa is also an option, but requires
    an endoscope suitable for the size of the snake (Garner and
    Raymond 2004; E. R. Jacobson, personal communication).
    Skin biopsies are another possibility, but are not as sensitive
    as a liver biopsy. However, the sensitivity can be
    improved by taking several skin biopsies (Garner and
    Raymond 2004)."

    Granted, this doesn't say at what stage of the illness it affects nearly all cell types; however, it does seem, from the reading, that it doesn't take long.

    About the statistics on how many boas have the disease: Given what others mentioned about the frequency of affected snakes given biopsies (even less common than those that get taken to the vet), 33% is going to be an upper limit, at best.

    EDIT: Please note I'm not saying liver biopsies are 100% accurate all the time.

    Read Jacobson's papers on IBD. He actually wrote two excellent articles in Reptiles Magazine.

    After you look those up you will learn:

    A liver biopsy can only detect IBD if there are actual inclusion bodies present in the liver.

    While the presence of inclusions is a diagnostic for the disease, the absence of these inclusion bodies does not necessarily indicate that the snake is not diseased or is free from IBD.

    In other words - a negative biopsy may mean nothing.
    Last edited by Skiploder; 10-13-2009 at 04:03 PM.

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