ok I'm a bit confused. Yellow Belly..Spector..Superstripe WHAT!

[Whoodnballs]

Ok so I came across nixer's thread of "what should I get next" and saw a few posts with spector in it and that he has one already. I understand that there is a lot to find out about that morph. But, I still have some questions that some of you might be able to help me with.

The Superstripe is a Spector x Yellow Belly, Yes?

If superstripe x superstripe has been done, does it produce YB, Spectors and more superstripes?

That is all for now I think. TIA for any answers.
Andrew

[JD Constriction]

It is way confusing

Spector/Whirlwind/het superstripe is all the same thing. The other 1/2 of the puzzle to make a superstripe.

Superstripe is a spector and yellowbelly. The superstripe breedings so far have shown that the superstripe is a super form of two different morphs that reside on the same allele (just like a mojave/lesser leucy) because all of the offspring was either spector or yellowbelly from superstripe to normal breedings.

SO....if that's true then a Superstripe bred to a Superstripe would produce:
1/4 Ivories
1/2 Superstripes
1/4 Super Spectors (which I believe hasn't been done)

Coolest breeding IMO would be Ivory to Super spector.....all superstripes!

Hope that helps

[MarkS]

It is way confusing

Spector/Whirlwind/het superstripe is all the same thing. The other 1/2 of the puzzle to make a superstripe.

Superstripe is a spector and yellowbelly. The superstripe breedings so far have shown that the superstripe is a super form of two different morphs that reside on the same allele (just like a mojave/lesser leucy) because all of the offspring was either spector or yellowbelly from superstripe to normal breedings.

SO....if that's true then a Superstripe bred to a Superstripe would produce:
1/4 Ivories
1/2 Superstripes
1/4 Super Spectors (which I believe hasn't been done)

Coolest breeding IMO would be Ivory to Super spector.....all superstripes!

Hope that helps

I don't think it's THAT confusing. Specter and whirlwind are just different lines of the same mutation. Like Sulfur and Fire or Butter and Lesser.

[nixer]

Ok so I came across nixer's thread of "what should I get next" and saw a few posts with spector in it and that he has one already. I understand that there is a lot to find out about that morph. But, I still have some questions that some of you might be able to help me with.

The Superstripe is a Spector x Yellow Belly, Yes?

If superstripe x superstripe has been done, does it produce YB, Spectors and more superstripes?

That is all for now I think. TIA for any answers.
Andrew

oh sure blame me, its always nixers fault!
yes the superstripe is a yellowbelly spector
superstripe x superstripe would give you superstripes, yb , ivory, spectors, and normal

now for the interesting part alot of ppl are still not quite sure how the spector reacts with the yb. so no one is sure if there is a super spector or not, but personally i dont believe there is.

[AaronP]

The only confusing part of the Superstripe is:

#1. A Superstripe CANNOT reproduce itself.
#2. Superstripe x Normal = Yellowbellies, Spectors/whirlwinds, and NORMALS!

Trey Barnard (mxrider42) and I had an extensive conversation with Tom Carlton about Super Stripes and those were the 2 points we mainly talked about.

[nixer]

The only confusing part of the Superstripe is:

#1. A Superstripe CANNOT reproduce itself.
#2. Superstripe x Normal = Yellowbellies, Spectors/whirlwinds, and NORMALS!

Trey Barnard (mxrider42) and I had an extensive conversation with Tom Carlton about Super Stripes and those were the 2 points we mainly talked about.

that is whats kind of nice about the whole superstripe, but this just kinda proves to the point we still know little about bp genetics. i love these curves.

[JenH]

The only confusing part of the Superstripe is:

#1. A Superstripe CANNOT reproduce itself.
#2. Superstripe x Normal = Yellowbellies, Spectors/whirlwinds, and NORMALS!

Trey Barnard (mxrider42) and I had an extensive conversation with Tom Carlton about Super Stripes and those were the 2 points we mainly talked about.

This makes me think that YB and spector are not on the same allelle but maybe a gene combination? But if that was the case, they would be able to reproduce themselves... Wow... This goes against everything I've learned about genetics....

Anyone see any patterns with the sex of the snakes? Maybe it is a sex linked trait?

[nixer]

This makes me think that YB and spector are not on the same allelle but maybe a gene combination? But if that was the case, they would be able to reproduce themselves... Wow... This goes against everything I've learned about genetics....

Anyone see any patterns with the sex of the snakes? Maybe it is a sex linked trait?

there is both males and females in the superstripe.

from my view of it and how the yb gene does some wierd stuff, but then again we cannot rule out that there are many other genes that do wierd things. heck look at the crystal, platty daddys, hidden gene womas

[AaronP]

This makes me think that YB and spector are not on the same allelle but maybe a gene combination? But if that was the case, they would be able to reproduce themselves... Wow... This goes against everything I've learned about genetics....

Anyone see any patterns with the sex of the snakes? Maybe it is a sex linked trait?

I don't think it's anything like that, I think there is simply more to the genetics of ball pythons than we think. If anything think about how many "Not genetic" mutations that are out there that may in fact be genetic but they just don't carry the "Genetic code" needed to recreate themselves without a 3rd party gene.

[nixer]

I don't think it's anything like that, I think there is simply more to the genetics of ball pythons than we think. If anything think about how many "Not genetic" mutations that are out there that may in fact be genetic but they just don't carry the "Genetic code" needed to recreate themselves without a 3rd party gene.

i couldnt of put it better myself