Quote Originally Posted by phunkyone808 View Post
I think some of it has to do with the economy......but i think it is more to do with people getting into snakes as a business and mass producing snakes and just breeding a whole bunch of co doms and doms with a whole bunch of normals.........and thats why he doms/ co doms are dropping faster.....and we all know ressecive take a little more $ and time to "mass produce"......

That is where selective breeding comes in and selective buying come in........
even if i see a pastel for $100 im not going to jump on it......i want a quality animal! so i may enjoy its beauty and if i decide to breed it with another nice high quality animal i have high quality babies..........

not saying peoples animals are low quality but i see a lot of low quality stuff out there and that is one reason they are cheaper...........and that may be what someone may like as a pet.........but when some one buys that animal and mass produces that low quality animal to a bunch of normals and floods the market with low quality babies just to make a quick buck and lowers the market cause now he has 30+ low end pastels...........and he doesnt want to keep them cause its to much $ and space for him the are the people you shouldent buy from.................
and i have no respect for that kind of person...........
if your a hobbiest and doing it for pleasure and selling beind closed door......fine...

my 2 cents! flame on if you want ...............


Sooooooooo true. At Daytona I saw pastels that I needed to read the actual sign saying they were pastels to tell the difference between them and normals.


But when I bought my pastels (a 200g insanely high yellow male and a puny little female that was pretty dull that was thrown in to the deal) and she remained kinda dull for a few months. But about a month or two ago she shed and was immediately at least as bright as my male with even better blushing! I was really surprised not to mention incredibly pleased. Now I just can't wait to make some supers with those two.

So I guess you can't always tell how they will turn out, but codoms really are being exploited and a grading system is definitely going to be needed. We as a community can help with that. If the average person looking for a spider, pastel or any other codom knew what a good one was supposed to look like and what a crap mass bred one tended to look like the problem would work it self out. If no one is buying those crappy mass produced codoms people will stop breeding them.

It is a stinky problem though, and I really don't know the best answer.