Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)

[gsarchie]

I keep finding conflicting information so someone help me clear this up. I know that a pastel is a pastel and a cinny is a cinny, and that a super pastel is a super pastel, and a super cinny is a super cinny. I also know that a cinny pastel is a pewter pastel and that a super pastel cinny is a sterling pastel. I get confused on the super cinny pastels and the super cinny super pastels. Is the former a silver streak and the latter a silver bullet? Any clarification would be super. Also, just verify the first ones as well to make sure that I'm not crazy please.

[bobbittle]

I keep finding conflicting information so someone help me clear this up. I know that a pastel is a pastel and a cinny is a cinny, and that a super pastel is a super pastel, and a super cinny is a super cinny. I also know that a cinny pastel is a pewter pastel and that a super pastel cinny is a sterling pastel. I get confused on the super cinny pastels and the super cinny super pastels. Is the former a silver streak and the latter a silver bullet? Any clarification would be super. Also, just verify the first ones as well to make sure that I'm not crazy please.

Cin/Pastel - Pewter Pastel
Super Cin/Pastel - Silver Bullet
Cin/Super Pastel - Sterling

Silver Streak gets a little complicated but involves Black Pastels.

[bobbittle]

Super Cin/Super Pastel - Super Pewter

Took a little searching.

[Fearless]

Super Cin/Super Pastel - Super Pewter

Took a little searching.

I have never heard it called that before,

I can never remember the names and throw the fact that if they are made with black pastels they have different names... its just to much to try retaining.

[Turbo Serpent]

Cinnamon = Cinnamon
Pastel = Pastel
Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak
Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Sterling

[bobbittle]

Cinnamon = Cinnamon
Pastel = Pastel
Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak
Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Sterling

Silver Steak is produced via Black Pastels, NOT cinnamons.

Here's a Super Pewter:

http://www.vpi.com/brag/super_pewter...compareson_pic

[Turbo Serpent]

Cinnamon = Cinnamon
Pastel = Pastel
Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak
Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Sterling

Silver Steak is produced via Black Pastels, NOT cinnamons.

Okay I was off a bit....

Cinnamon = Cinnamon
Pastel = Pastel
Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Sterling
Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak

I mixed a few up, but according to NERD these are the names.

[dreese88]

Okay I was off a bit....

Cinnamon = Cinnamon
Pastel = Pastel
Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Sterling
Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak

I mixed a few up, but according to NERD these are the names.

Super Pastel Super Cinny is Super Pewter
Pastel Super Cinny is Silver Bullet

Link to Silver Bullet page on Albey's site.
Silver Bullet

Link to Super Pewter
Super Pewter

*EDIT* Just checked my copy of the complete ball python and it does call the Super Cinny Super Pastel a silver bullet, but I think everyone else is calling it the Super Pewter and the Super Cinny Pastel the Silver Bullet...Maybe someone with a little bit more knowledge will be able to shed some light on the situation. HTH

[LGL]

Kevin mislabled the Silver Bullet (Pastel Super Cinnamon) as the double super.

Pastel - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...tel_jungle.htm
Cinnamon - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/collection/cinnamon.htm

Super Pastel - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
Super Cinnamon - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...on-pastel.html

Pastel Cinnamon = Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/pewterbig.jpg
Super Pastel Cinnamon = Sterling - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1178477304.jpg
Pastel Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...ver_bullet.htm
Super Pastel Super Cinnamon = Super Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/superpewter.htm

There are some great pictures in Greg Graziani's 2007 gallery: http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...hoto%20Gallary

Also:

Black Pastel - Allelic to Cinnamon and produces similar looking combos, although they do differ slightly
Pastel Black Pastel = Black Pewter
Super Pastel Black Pastel = Silver Streak
Pastel Super Black Pastel = Silver Bullet
Super Pastel Super Black Pastel - I'm not sure it's been produced. It'll most likely be called something along the lines of "Super Pewter" or "Super Black Pewter".

[dreese88]

Kevin mislabled the Silver Bullet (Pastel Super Cinnamon) as the double super.

Pastel - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...tel_jungle.htm
Cinnamon - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/collection/cinnamon.htm

Super Pastel - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
Super Cinnamon - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...on-pastel.html

Pastel Cinnamon = Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/pewterbig.jpg
Super Pastel Cinnamon = Sterling - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1178477304.jpg
Pastel Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...ver_bullet.htm
Super Pastel Super Cinnamon = Super Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/superpewter.htm

There are some great pictures in Greg Graziani's 2007 gallery: http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...hoto%20Gallary

Also:

Black Pastel - Allelic to Cinnamon and produces similar looking combos, although they do differ slightly
Pastel Black Pastel = Black Pewter
Super Pastel Black Pastel = Silver Streak
Pastel Super Black Pastel = Silver Bullet
Super Pastel Super Black Pastel - I'm not sure it's been produced. It'll most likely be called something along the lines of "Super Pewter" or "Super Black Pewter".

I thought that was right. Thanks