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    Re: What are the visible differences between Butters and Lessers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Repsrul View Post
    I don't have a Lesser but I do have a Butter.

    On most of the Lessers I have see they have a more yellowish outline on their patterns.
    Nice pattern.. I really dig the banding.
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    Re: What are the visible differences between Butters and Lessers?

    Sometimes roughly $150-$200.
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    Re: What are the visible differences between Butters and Lessers?

    I could never see a difference. The differences I notice between a butter and a lesser are about the same as I see from lesser to another lesser. I've always been convinced that they are the same. I'd like to see if Ralph can make a mojave daddy. I think that if he can't, than they are definitely the same mutation. But even if he can that still doesn't prove that they are different.
    What are these mojavas I keep hearing so much about?

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    Re: What are the visible differences between Butters and Lessers?

    Thanks! That is one of the reasons I picked him up. The pattern on this guy is pretty neat looking.
    Quote Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons View Post
    Nice pattern.. I really dig the banding.

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    Re: What are the visible differences between Butters and Lessers?

    ive never seen a lesser in person, ive read that lessers can get sorta green as they age.
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    Re: What are the visible differences between Butters and Lessers?

    you might as well see them as different lines of the same morph, heck if you ask me they are the same morph, but lets not start that debate.

    sure theres going to be examples of rich gold butters vs bright tan lesser, like there is bright yellow lemon pastels and great blushing Graziani pastels, but most of them kinda look the same.

    oh and stated b4, the difference of 150-200 bucks lol, i liked that one, but true

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    Re: What are the visible differences between Butters and Lessers?

    What makes it even hard to tell is when you breed a lesser to butter, and produced non-white snakes. So how do you tell if its a lesser or a butter from the said clutch?

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    Re: What are the visible differences between Butters and Lessers?

    Which is part of the issue since there was the whole RDR identifying a snake as a butter off a Platty Daddy x Butter clutch... that shouldn't even be a possibility if the traits exist at the same locus as everyone seems to claim they do.

    But anyway... I think the lesser I'm getting is brilliant, not as creamy as the rest but more contrast on him.

    And for a long time I could visibly identify Butters and Lessers based on the fact that butters had an almost caramel colour on them while lessers tended to have a faded black/brown colour and then the lessers seemed to have more white rising up the sides.

    But some of the recent pictures I have been seeing have completely thrown me off.
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    Re: What are the visible differences between Butters and Lessers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Because I have seen a lot of obvious "oh thats a butter" or "yup that's a lesser" but at the same time there seems to be a point where they overlap, and the more of each I see the larger that overlapping seems to be.

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