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    supers

    I was just thinking about all the different supers we can make from the codoms and found that only one I can think of will produce a bp with a super color but still has pattern. Otherwise it seems all the codom supers create a patternless animal.

    Pastel seems to be the only one I can think of. Super pastel only affects the color leaving the pattern the same.

    cinny x cinny - solid black/brown snake
    black pastel x black pastel - solid black snake
    lesser x lesser / butter x butter / mojave x mojave / russo x russo / phantom x phantom - blue eyed lucy solid white snake
    yellow belly x yellow belly - ivory not solid white but still basically patternless IMO
    fire x fire / sulphur x sulpher - black eyed lucy also solid white snake

    of corse all these morphs can have some pattern like the yellow spots on the super fire etc but they are all basically patternless snakes.
    I cant seem to think of a codom that only affects the color besides pastel.
    If you know of one please share.
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    Re: supers

    super enchi has a pattern, but it is affected by the mutation.

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    Re: supers

    Super vanilla, chocolate, sable, and red axanthic all have pattern.

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    Re: supers

    Red axanthics (Het Red x Het Red) even though they are labeled as hets its a co-dom morph; don't ask me I never understood it either. Powerball (Spotnose x Spotnose). Super vanilla.
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    Re: supers

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Red axanthics (Het Red x Het Red) even though they are labeled as hets its a co-dom morph; don't ask me I never understood it either. Powerball (Spotnose x Spotnose). Super vanilla.
    Its just as Pastels are Het for Super Pastel.

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    Re: supers

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    Its just as Pastels are Het for Super Pastel.
    I know its just this hobby is so darn confusing for a newbie.

    Hets are a term usually associated with recessive morphs. I know its short for heterozygous which just means one copy of the gene but still. I just wish there was some uniformity to our already confusing hobby
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    Re: supers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptonian View Post
    lesser x lesser / butter x butter / mojave x mojave / russo x russo / phantom x phantom - blue eyed lucy solid white snake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    I know its just this hobby is so darn confusing for a newbie.

    Hets are a term usually associated with recessive morphs. I know its short for heterozygous which just means one copy of the gene but still. I just wish there was some uniformity to our already confusing hobby
    I know it can be confusing, but how many times can you say heterozygous pastel, then you start saying het pastel, then you just get tired of that, then its just a damn pastel lol.

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    Re: supers

    ok I guess the phantom super is not white, I just noticed when crossed with a lesser it makes a BEL.

    but the super phantom is cool.
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    Re: supers

    What happens if you use 2 male pastel on a spider...does that make any diff????like can a super produce in the clutch???

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    Re: supers

    What happens if you use 2 male pastel on a spider...does that make any diff????like can a super produce in the clutch???
    Both males can father babies but you wouldn't really know who was the daddy and you won't produce a super.
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