Yeah, i gave up feeding in seperate enclosures mos. ago. i actually think they have a much greater feed response now for sure and their docility hasn't changed a bit either as far as taking them out and being struck at. i let my rats sit in the room to pre-scent for a bit so they know food is coming. They're only in feed mode when that happens. They don't associate the tubs being pulled out with dinner time except when i have pre-scented. life is so much easier i think