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Re: Taking the Good With the Bad
 Originally Posted by EdShal
is it a deadly combo to produce?
cause i plan to breed my silver streak x albino. and expect black pewter & pastel babies which are 100% het albino. then if odds are good.. i wanna do the same thing like you did, the black pewter x black pewter.
The parents are both Black Pewters which is not a deadly combo. Sometimes things just don't go well.
Super blacks are not known to have this difficulty so I attribute this to something that went wrong during incubation. I think it is coincidence that both of them happened to be super blacks. One of them was on the bottom of a tall egg pile and may have been too moist (the vermiculite).
Most super blacks have a "duck billing" issue where their snouts look a little pinched.
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Re: Taking the Good With the Bad
 Originally Posted by ColinWeaver
The parents are both Black Pewters which is not a deadly combo. Sometimes things just don't go well.
Super blacks are not known to have this difficulty so I attribute this to something that went wrong during incubation. I think it is coincidence that both of them happened to be super blacks. One of them was on the bottom of a tall egg pile and may have been too moist (the vermiculite).
Most super blacks have a "duck billing" issue where their snouts look a little pinched.
It looks like they got tangled in the egg with is a developmental issue & can happen no matter what the morph. Sorry it happened to be the Super Blacks. Nice year otherwise though- awesome stuff!
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Re: Taking the Good With the Bad
Colin sorry to hear bout the losses bud but you gotta look at the glass half full, at least you got some offspring this season. Out of the 3 snakes I paired together this past Fall only one produced. It was a pair of Dumeril's Boas in which I got 1 healthy baby out of and 12 slugs. She slugged out as they say...
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Re: Taking the Good With the Bad
 Originally Posted by ColinWeaver
Most super blacks have a "duck billing" issue where their snouts look a little pinched.
Super blacks have kinking problems as well.
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Re: Taking the Good With the Bad
Awww that is sad 
The hatchlings that survived are gorgeous!
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Re: Taking the Good With the Bad
 Originally Posted by pfan151
Super blacks have kinking problems as well.
With the exception of these animals that has not been my experience.
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Re: Taking the Good With the Bad
 Originally Posted by ColinWeaver
With the exception of these animals that has not been my experience.
Not always, but it is a known problem with super blacks. I remember Ralph Davis talking about it a year or two ago.
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Re: Taking the Good With the Bad
Hi,
You don't happen to remember where or have a link?
I just bought a black pastel wih the intention of making 8balls at some point and am a little worried about it now. 
dr del
Derek
7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.
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Re: Taking the Good With the Bad
 Originally Posted by dr del
Hi,
You don't happen to remember where or have a link?
I just bought a black pastel wih the intention of making 8balls at some point and am a little worried about it now.
dr del
there is nothing to worry about in terms of 8balls being kinked. I have seen many superblacks and super cinnamons and have talked to many people that produce them and that is not an issue of concern. The only consistant issue is the narrow snout or duckbilling. These were simply an isolated instance and by chance the two eggs in that clutch that both supers were the dead in egg. Todd
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