i suggest, strongly, that when people have an adult keel over, or heck even a two year old animal... Get a necropsy done by a HERP vet who specifically works with snakes.

the liver, and other vital organs should be closely looked at.

id love to see those vet reports. As all this guessing does noone any good without any veterinary info.

JUST from the necropsies over the years ive seen done on animals, posted in various places over the internet... i find the information truly interesting, and think it will seriously aid our information and guide us to a proper care regimen with all the animals we keep in captivity.