i no i have no problem paying for anything, i just dont want to pay a a lot if i dont have to, if one of my animals is in need of the vet, ill pay any amount that i need to, as a matter of a fact i just spent well over 600$ on supplies for my baby iguana and water dragon. I dont mind spending a lot of money if i have to, but if i can save a little here and there that would be nice, but believe i treat all of my pet extremely well and am well aware of the costs that come with this hobby if i can save some here and there, great if i cant so be it, ill pay whatever i need for my pets to be happy and healthy- in the white plains show ill be buying rbi hides, not the cheap alternatives i searched for and for the rats ill just buy 3000 cubic in of bedding for 5$