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Re: BAD GUY-Matt Oakley
As I’m sure many people won’t answer on this forum but answer these questions to yourself and put yourself in the shoes of the seller in this situation…
Would you refund someones money if they said you sent them a half dead snake but it was still feeding? Even my MOM said, “Snakes that aren’t healthy don’t eat.”
Would you refund someones money if they said the snake had hundreds of mites crawling over it when they got it and you knew that wasn’t true as this is something that’s literally impossible for you to not notice?
Would you refund someones money if they told you it wheezed and you already refunded $100 no questions asked? When I shipped the snake the temperature in my area was 90 degrees plus.
Would you refund someones money if they told you they took the snake to the vet several times, had it on the best meds/strongest doses available, was doing everything they could to save it but have never told you what’s supposedly wrong with the animal even when asked ? Trevor NEVER stated that this snake had a RI or gave me any other indication that ANYTHING was wrong with this animal at all. All he ever told me was that “SOMETHING” was in her system. What vet prescribes an animal meds and tells you, ”Something’s in your pets system.” No vet is going to give anyone meds not even knowing what they’re treating. If the snake had a URI Trevor would have told me this when I asked.
Would you refund someones money if after over 2 months of owning the snake they contact you telling you they’re going to have the snake euthanized and wanted a refund because she “isn't well enough to my satisfaction?”
Would you refund someones money if the person you sold the snake to told other people that they plan to breed this animal this season and tell you that the animal's condition was so bad they they felt it needed to be euthanized?? If you feel the animal wasn't going to make it why tell others you planned to breed it?
Would you refund someones money if they threatened you every other email that they’ed post a bad guy thread on the BOI about you if you didn’t comply in an attempt to force you to do so?
Who here would ever keep a snake that when received was half dead and swarming with mites risking infection to the rest of your collection, keep that animal for OVER 2 MONTHS and contact who you got it from stating that you were going to have to euthanize the animal and wanted a refund??
Who here can honestly answer yes to all these questions and say that you yourself would refund someone money if you were in my shoes??
Would you refund someones money if a friend told you the buyer posted the animal on a popular forum and EVERYONE was telling them how nice that animal was? You don’t show off half dead, mite infested snakes on forums to show everyone how nice of an animal you just got. You don’t tell people how you plan on breeding the animal and that it’s feeding if you think it might not survive. ANYONE who knows snakes knows that dying snakes don’t keep feeding and if you’re planning on having it euthanized the next day (this is what Trevor told me) then why would you even be trying to feed it?? You don’t put smiley faces all over your thread about the animal if you’re not satisfied with it.
You don’t get comments in the thread that you post on this animal like:
Stunning-I want a blood!
Daaaaaaaaamn boy! You are picking out a killer collection over there! Do I need to come and *ahem* visit?
Absolutely gorgeous!!!
That's a hot deep purple lady! As sweet as the brighter reds are, her darkness only serves to amplify the glowing colors along her sides. Great pickup!
She is beautiful!!!!That was a NICE pick up!!! Who did you get her from?
Smoking girl!
I absolutely love that dark head, she is one hot blood!
You don’t have Jason Holzworth of redpython.net respond: “Weight? she looks perfect,” when you say you want to ad weight to her so you can breed her next season if she’s dying.
Here’s the link to the thread that Trever posted on the snake he received from me a MONTH after he received the snake from me:
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=96664
Does this look like a half dead/sick animal to you?? To much stuff in this doesn’t make since to me.
I sent Trevor a damn beautiful animal and EVERYONE who saw it said the same. Frankly I believe this is a bullcrap way to try to get some money back.
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Re: BAD GUY-Matt Oakley
Did you send it packaged the way it was shown? If so, I can't and won't believe a word you say.
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Re: BAD GUY-Matt Oakley
Thank you JAMIE!!
When told about the mites over the phone after first receiving her, Matt replied "I don't understand, I soaked her in the tub"
On my Grandfather's grave
200-300 Mites
RI
And a snake with SOMETHING in it's system that can't be killed.
 Originally Posted by jglass38
Did you send it packaged the way it was shown? If so, I can't and won't believe a word you say.
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Re: BAD GUY-Matt Oakley
 Originally Posted by jglass38
Did you send it packaged the way it was shown? If so, I can't and won't believe a word you say.
Me and jglass38 don't always see eye to eye on things but i have to say i 100% agree with him this time ! It makes me sick i was going to buy from this guy and now there is NO WAY i will be buying from him ! Maybe this is a sign of me and J getting along better
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Re: BAD GUY-Matt Oakley
Why would I euthanize a snake that's healthy?
Why would I want to sell it back to Matt if it wasn't sick?
No doubt she's a beautiful Blood, but she's sick as a dog and nothing the vet has or has had to special order for me has worked.
I also gave Matt multiple chances through multiple emails to resolve the situation before I headed to the BOI.
So, this is where we ended up.
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Re: BAD GUY-Matt Oakley
I can't say this is the first time I've read of Matt Oakley shipping in banana boxes. That was just about the worst packaging I've ever seen.....and it was holding a 16lb blood. I would have shipped a used vcr in better packaging....just sayin.
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Re: BAD GUY-Matt Oakley
 Originally Posted by waltah!
I can't say this is the first time I've read of Matt Oakley shipping in banana boxes. That was just about the worst packaging I've ever seen.....and it was holding a 16lb blood. I would have shipped a used vcr in better packaging....just sayin.
What you read about me shipping in a bananna bow was FROZEN RATS not a snake
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Re: BAD GUY-Matt Oakley
 Originally Posted by bloodpython171
What you read about me shipping in a bananna bow was FROZEN RATS not a snake
And the hole just keeps getting deeper 
Well you just said not a snake ?? But you shipped the blood in a banana so which is it you don't ship snakes in banana boxes or you do ? Now im really confused help me out Matt please clear this up for me !
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Re: BAD GUY-Matt Oakley
 Originally Posted by bloodpython171
What you read about me shipping in a bananna bow was FROZEN RATS not a snake
I'm not here to slam anyone, but I don't think you really want to bring that whole thread up. My comment was regarding the shipping and not the animal itself. There is not a single person that will see that shipping box and think it's acceptable, especially for a heavy snake. Again, that has nothing to do with the actual animal. I will say that you only get one chance to make a first impression and the shipping of the animal is the real first impression in my book. The dealings ahead of time are nice, but when I actually receive the animal is when my opinion of the seller really begins. That's not a strong first impression.
Not trying to argue, just stating a fact.
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