I actually got mine at a show, from a nice breeder in california called jon's jungle. I saw PLEEEENnnnty of spiders under 250 there, i happend to get the only male for 150 at the show. he doesnt spin, he eats well (2 times a week adult mice) and hes 209 grams and has shed twice. i also got my pinstripe female for 350 shipped, roughly 310 un-shipped and she eats and poops fine and shed for her first time. she wasnt from a show. but! she didnt go along with his breeding plans so he let her go cheaper. I know for fact that circulation of more ball pythons of a certain type lowers the value. at the anaheim show i saw more pinstripes and spiders than anything else at the show.