Caramel Albino Pricing

[AaronP]

I don't think the Kinking is helping the price but I also don't think there is a very high demand for Caramels as compared to Albinos. Infact I don't understand why they are $500-$600, last year they were around $800 and I don't know a single breeder who didn't sell out of the albinos they were trying to sell.

I guess people just like shooting themselves in the foot.

[Auletto]

Thanks for all the feed back. Definitely, some good thoughts on the subject.

[Brandon Osborne]

i guess people just like shooting themselves in the foot.

amen!

[omnibus2]

I wasn't aware caramel albinos kinked, I thought only spiders did that.

[Bill Buchman]

Caramel kinking has been DRAMATICALLY overstated!!!! There are more than a few breeders that have been producing 20+ Caramels a year with NO KINKING. The way most posters talk about Caramels leads people to believe every 3rd one hatched is a "bent in half disaster" -- ABSURD.

From what I have been able to glean from talking with as many experienced Caramel breeders as possible -- which I am NOT -- yet, is that most of the kinking occured from line breeding one of the Caramel lines.

Ultramels are a different morph and will age differently and combine differently with other morphs. I like the Ultramel VERY MUCH -- but I like the Caramel projects I am working more. My second Caramel Mojave clutch just hatched this morning -- containing a Caramel and a Caramel Mojave -- both perfect. -- just as I expected.

On a side note, I find it interesting that more often than not, negative spin about "insert your morph here" comes most passionately from those that have chosen not to work with said morph -- for whatever reasons.

[J.Vandegrift]

I've been watching pricing of caramel drop from $2000 & up for a hatchlings last year and this year I've seen adult males for $1300 from jnjreptile, which is almost a 40% drop in price. I under stand the prices drop each years, but a 40% drop just seems crazy.

I've been working on some caramel projects, but I have a feeling by the time I reach my goals within 2 or 3 years Caramels will be the same price as ghost. I know normal albinos have held there price around $500 each year, so why can't caramels hold their value?

I wanted to hears some feedback on this.

Caramels were not selling for 2k last year and I would bet they are not selling for $1300 now. I should be hatching a good amount in the next few weeks and I am not expecting to get close to $1300 for them. I am thinking the price that they are actually selling for this year is probably more like $900-$1000.

[MissMowgli]

Caramels were not selling for 2k last year and I would bet they are not selling for $1300 now. I should be hatching a good amount in the next few weeks and I am not expecting to get close to $1300 for them. I am thinking the price that they are actually selling for this year is probably more like $900-$1000.

I don't have data before November 08, but I know the average price for hatchlings/juvis (less than 1 year old) on KS last November was $1800 for males and $1900 for females. Not trying to contradict you, but just checking it against my records.

[SPJ]

$500 2009 females at Daytona.

[Auletto]

Caramels were not selling for 2k last year and I would bet they are not selling for $1300 now. I should be hatching a good amount in the next few weeks and I am not expecting to get close to $1300 for them. I am thinking the price that they are actually selling for this year is probably more like $900-$1000.

Please do some research before posting. Plus, I stated adults not hatchlings.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=144890

[J.Vandegrift]

I don't have data before November 08, but I know the average price for hatchlings/juvis (less than 1 year old) on KS last November was $1800 for males and $1900 for females. Not trying to contradict you, but just checking it against my records.

That may have been the list price, but the list price and the selling price can be two very different things. I am sure there were some out there sold at that price, but the majority were not.