my apologies, the egg cutting thing was just a side-rant. not related to the topic at hand. I just disagree when I see amateur routinely cutting eggs at day X. Wait for the damn things to pip

Ditto with the spider, not using that as an example of a problem that responsible breeding can fix, merely listing all the known issues that came to mind of the top of my head,Perhaps I should have stuck to the relevant ones such as kinked super blacks/super cinnies, kinking caramels, duckbilling in certain supers etc etc.

BUT on the spider issue if people had been less willing to accept thier behavious as "ok" OR breeders had been more open and honest about their problems from the off then perhaps there wouldn't be so many thousands of spiders bred and more people would have just said "no thanks". Other than that you're right, it's not really a relevant topic for discussion in this thread.

Please don't let the small off topic parts of my post become the focus here, most of it was relevant.

We have culled in the apst, fortunately it's rare, certain morphs and projects just increase the chances.Some to the point of an almost certainty.

I'll say this final thing about egg cutting.

It DOES interfere. a python in the wild that could not pip on it's own would perish. IT also can cause harm to the snake in the egg. if you just attack it without knowing what you are doing it's possible to sever some blood vesels that the snake is still finding quite useful. IT's just not something I think should be shown to people as a "normal" thing to do. It's a bit like probing, something people should learn, but something they should be shown properly by someone with experience of it but unlike probing it shouldn't be seen as essential or normal.

Sorry for taking this off topic, back to the issue in hand.